Andrew,

A role for the LAW in this, methinks?

Time to start lobbying government about this form of restrictive trade practice?

Scenario:

Minister to AMA: "why don't more of your brethren embrace e-health more readily?"

AMA: "Because you and your colleagues fail to provide us with legal protection to our right to access our data unencumbered!"

Greg

Andrew wrote:
 Yes Horst you are right so I have rephrased it.

I have heard from a clinic recently is that MD3 is encrypted and HCN will
only release the key to the doctor/clinic after they agree not to pass it on
to any 3rd parties, including the incoming vendor.(Horst is probably one of
the few doctors who could do anything with the key I would think)

It was ironic because the incoming vendor (intrahealth) is shitty about HCN
not releasing the key and I am shitty with Intrahealth because they did the
same thing to one of my clients last year when they were leaving Profile.
Knowing the admin and master DB passwords to Profile did not help.

And recently Intrahealth are claiming (Data Ownership - without prejudice
-Intrahealth) that their dB is not encrypted but our external DB expert just
recently insisted
(QUOTE "I can assure you the file data was not in normal ASCII on a large
number of documents.")
that it was and that is why they failed to extract anything more than
demograhics.

Why can't Vendors just be honest about it ?
Oh then we would know there real intentions I guess, that they are scared
customers will leave their under performing products and they wantto try and
stop them by holding their clinical data to ransom.

Andrew C.


-----Original Message-----
From: Horst Herb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 24 November 2006 10:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; General Practice Computing Group Talk
Subject: Re: [GPCG_TALK] Data Ownership - without prejudice -Intrahealth

On Friday 24 November 2006 01:25, Andrew wrote:
Who is prepared to use a clinical database that is not encrypted ?

I think you should rephrase that to : who is prepared to still use a
vendor-locked-in "encrypted" database (unless the vendor provides the
customer with a means of decrypting everytyhing)?

I certainly would not touch a system with a ten metre pole where I cannot
access every single record or part thereof at MY WILL ANY TIME


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Greg Twyford
Information Management & Technology Program Officer
Canterbury Division of General Practice
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