The new native REST API will not retrieve information from the GUI. The new API 
is handled by a new “Admin Daemon”,  which will communicate directly with 
mmfsd, or with peer Admin Daemons, as needed.

  Felipe

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GPFS Development and Security
IBM Systems
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From: gpfsug-discuss <[email protected]> on behalf of shao feng 
<[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, August 27, 2024 at 10:26 PM
To: gpfsug main discussion list <[email protected]>
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Native Rest API
If my understanding is correct, the data returned by "native rest api" will 
also be from GUI. If that is true, will you fix this "bug" which cause current 
API not a serious API: https: //www. ibm. com/docs/en/storage-scale/5. 2. 
1?topic=issues-gui-is-displaying-outdated-information

If my understanding is correct, the data returned by "native rest api" will 
also be from GUI. If that is true, will you fix this "bug" which cause current 
API not a serious API: 
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/storage-scale/5.2.1?topic=issues-gui-is-displaying-outdated-information

On Wed, Aug 21, 2024 at 3:18 AM CHRIS MAESTAS 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Honest feedback is what is needed! There is no intention to remove mm* 
commands. There is an intention to solidify the CLI, GUI and REST control paths 
into a common framework. This has been known as the Modernization of Scale 
(MOS) work and has been in tech-preview since version 5.1.9 last year. Please 
feel free to look at: 
https://www.spectrumscaleug.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/SSUG24ISC-Modernisation-of-Storage-Scale.pdf<https://www.spectrumscaleug.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/SSUG24ISC-Modernisation-of-Storage-Scale.pdf>
 for an overview of the direction that is being taken today. There is a sponsor 
user group for this tech-preview feature that you are welcome to join. You can 
participate in new calls and listen to previously recorded calls.

--cdm


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on behalf of Wahl, Edward <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Tuesday, August 20, 2024 at 12:32 PM
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<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, gpfsug main 
discussion list 
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Native Rest API
I'm going to be a bit... harsh here.   I absolutely hate companies taking away 
my CLI's and giving me some half-working REST trash.  IBM has already done this 
across a Number of different products(sklm,etc) , so I will not be surprised if 
it eventually happens here.   All the young programming teams across the globe 
they employ love this kind of thing.   I wish they would actually ASK the 
customers instead of that kind of thing, but it *IS* a thing, and has been 
happening to more than just IBM products.

On the plus side, I don't think Scale is QUITE at that point, so we are 
probably safe for at least another few versions.   They've been pushing the 
lackluster GUI quite hard for some time now.  Many of us out here actually have 
the GUI disabled, or not installed at all, due to all the CVEs, and/or an 
inability to move forward for various reasons.  For example: There was no path 
forward on Power8 without 'rolling your own', and I assume again soon for our 
Power 9s.  Your Mileage May Vary, of course.

I shudder to think about attempting to diagnose a cluster boot after a major 
datacenter maintenance outage where a timeout caused various "vdisks" not to 
get marked active, with REST.  Bet that takes much longer than the CLI.

Ed Wahl
Ohio Supercomputer Center

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Subject: [gpfsug-discuss] Native Rest API


I just had an email from IBM about technology preview of the "Native Rest API" 
feature in 5.2.1.0

There are at least two interrelated and important questions that are not 
answered in the web page about this "Native Rest API" feature IMHO.

Firstly the page says it "eliminates" the need to administer the Scale cluster 
with the mm-command layer. Does that mean the mm-command layer is going away? 
Will I in the future going to forced to use some "naff"
GUI layer to administer a GPFS cluster? Frankly I am quite happy using the 
mm-command layer thank you very much and would like to keep it that way and 
just be able to ignore the GUI. I do appreciate I might be somewhat old school 
in that view but never the less I view GUI administration of things with 
disdain.

Secondly at the moment the Rest API requires installing the GUI. Does the 
"native" bit of the title mean that requirement is going away and there will be 
a Rest API without the need for the additional complexity of the GUI nodes? Or 
is the mm-command layer going away and yes you will need the extra complexity 
of the GUI because you are going to have to suck up administering the system 
with a GUI?


JAB.

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Jonathan A. Buzzard                         Tel: +44141-5483420
HPC System Administrator, ARCHIE-WeSt.
University of Strathclyde, John Anderson Building, Glasgow. G4 0NG

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