Hi Aaron

You did a perfect job of explaining a situation I've run into time after time - 
high latency on the disk subsystem causing a backup in the NSD queues. I was 
doing what you suggested not to do - "mmfsadm saferdump nsd' and looking at the 
queues. In my case 'mmfsadm saferdump" would usually work or hang, rather than 
kill mmfsd. But - the hang usually resulted it a tied up thread in mmfsd, so 
that's no good either.

I wish I had better news - this is the only way I've found to get visibility to 
these queues. IBM hasn't seen fit to gives us a way to safely look at these. I 
personally think it's a bug that we can't safely dump these structures, as they 
give insight as to what's actually going on inside the NSD server.

Yuri, Sven - thoughts?


Bob Oesterlin
Sr Storage Engineer, Nuance HPC Grid



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Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 at 8:46 PM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [gpfsug-discuss] Monitor NSD server queue?

Hi Everyone,

We ran into a rather interesting situation over the past week. We had a job 
that was pounding the ever loving crap out of one of our filesystems (called 
dnb02) doing about 15GB/s of reads. We had other jobs experience a slowdown on 
a different filesystem (called dnb41) that uses entirely separate backend 
storage. What I can't figure out is why this other filesystem was affected. 
I've checked IB bandwidth and congestion, Fibre channel bandwidth and errors, 
Ethernet bandwidth congestion, looked at the mmpmon nsd_ds counters (including 
disk request wait time), and checked out the disk iowait values from collectl. 
I simply can't account for the slowdown on the other filesystem. The only thing 
I can think of is the high latency on dnb02's NSDs caused the mmfsd NSD queues 
to back up.

Here's my question-- how can I monitor the state of th NSD queues? I can't find 
anything in mmdiag. An mmfsadm saferdump NSD shows me the queues and their 
status. I'm just not sure calling saferdump NSD every 10 seconds to monitor 
this data is going to end well. I've seen saferdump NSD cause mmfsd to die and 
that's from a task we only run every 6 hours that calls saferdump NSD.

Any thoughts/ideas here would be great.

Thanks!

-Aaron
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