In addition, the in_doubt column is a function of the data turn-over and the internal gpfs accounting synchronization period (beyond root control). The higher the in_doubt values the less accurate the real amount of space/inodes a user/group/fileset has in the filesystem.

What I noticed in practice is the the in_doubt values only get worst overtime, and work against the quotas, making them hit the limits sooner. Therefore, you may wish to run a 'mmcheckquota' crontab job once or twice a day, to reset the in_doubt column to zero mover often. GPFS has a very high lag to do this on its own in the most recent versions, and seldom really catches up on a very active filesystem.

If your grace period is set to 7 days I can assure you that in an HPC environment it's the equivalent of not having quotas effectively. You should set it to 2 hours or 4 hours.

In an environment such as ours a runway process can easily generate 500TB of data or 1 billion inodes in few hours, and choke the file system to all users/jobs.

Jaime



Quoting "Buterbaugh, Kevin L" <[email protected]>:

Hi Renar,

I?m sure this is the case, but I don?t see anywhere in this thread where this is explicitly stated ? you?re not doing your tests as root, are you? root, of course, is not bound by any quotas.

Kevin

On Jul 31, 2017, at 2:04 PM, Grunenberg, Renar <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


Hallo J. Eric, hallo Jaime,
Ok after we hit the softlimit we see that the graceperiod are go to 7 days. I think that?s the default. But was does it mean.
After we reach the ?hard?-limit. we see additionaly the gbytes  in_doubt.
My interpretation now we can write many gb to the nospace-left event in the filesystem. But our intention is to restricted some application to write only to the hardlimit in the fileset. Any hints to accomplish this?



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Von: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von J. Eric Wonderley
Gesendet: Montag, 31. Juli 2017 19:55
An: gpfsug main discussion list <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Betreff: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Quota and hardlimit enforcement

Hi Renar:
What does 'mmlsquota -j fileset filesystem' report?
I did not think you would get a grace period of none unless the hardlimit=softlimit.

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 1:44 PM, Grunenberg, Renar <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hallo All,
we are on Version 4.2.3.2 and see some missunderstandig in the enforcement of hardlimit definitions on a flieset quota. What we see is we put some 200 GB files on following quota definitions: quota 150 GB Limit 250 GB Grace none. After the creating of one 200 GB we hit the softquota limit, thats ok. But After the the second file was created!! we expect an io error but it don?t happen. We define all well know Parameters (-Q,..) on the filesystem . Is this a bug or a Feature? mmcheckquota are already running at first.
Regards Renar.


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