Stephen, Bryan,

Thanks for the input, it’s greatly appreciated.

For us we’re trying – as many people are – to drive down the usage of 
under-the-desk NAS appliances and USB HDDs. We offer space on disk, but you 
can’t charge for 3TB of storage the same as you would down PC World and many 
customers don’t understand the difference between what we do, and what a USB 
disk offers.

So, offering tape as a medium to store cold data, but not archive data, is one 
offering we’re just getting round to discussing. The solution is in place. To 
answer the specific question: for our customers that adopt HSM, how much less 
should/could/can we charge them per TB. We know how much a tape costs, but we 
don’t necessarily have the means (or knowledge?) to say that for a given 
fileset, 80% of the data is on tape. Then you get into 80% of 1TB is not the 
same as 80% of 10TB.

Richard

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<gpfsug-discuss-boun...@spectrumscale.org> On Behalf Of Stephen Ulmer
Sent: 03 May 2018 14:03
To: gpfsug main discussion list <gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org>
Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Recharging where HSM is used

I work for a partner, but I occasionally have to help customers work on cost 
justification that includes charge-back (or I encourage them to do show-back to 
alleviate some political concerns).

I’d also like to see what people are doing around this.

If I may ask a question, what is the goal for your site? Are you trying to 
figure out how to charge for the tape space, or to NOT charge the migrated 
files as resident? Would you (need to) charge for pre-migrated files twice? Are 
you trying to figure out how to have users pay for recalls? Basically, what 
costs are you trying to cover? I realize that was not “a” question… :)

Also, do you specifically mean TSM HSM, or do you mean GPFS policies and an 
external storage pool?

--
Stephen



On May 3, 2018, at 5:43 AM, Sobey, Richard A 
<r.so...@imperial.ac.uk<mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk>> wrote:

Hi all,

I’d be interested to talk to anyone that is using HSM to move data to tape, 
(and stubbing the file(s)) specifically any strategies you’ve employed to 
figure out how to charge your customers (where you do charge anyway) based on 
usage.

On-list or off is fine with me.

Thanks
Richard
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