Hi Nicholas, Tim,

as Tim already correctly mentioned we're slowly but surely moving all our tool 
related questions
to support.gpgtools.org since it's way easier to maintain.
You're still able to start discussions via email and reply to them solely via 
email.
One reason for this transition was, that almost no one posted on the mailing 
list anymore.
We've already answered a huge bunch of questions on support.gpgtools.org using 
the Tender
support forum and most of our users really like it.

As to your question, is there any chance you've recently updated GPGMail or 
GPGTools?
Also are you on Lion or Snow Leopard?

The reason why you're asked for your passphrase is, that Mail.app on Lion 
creates
small preview snippets which you'll see in the second column, and to correctly
create these for encrypted messages as well, the emails are decrypted.
It's a bit annoying since the creation of the preview snippets occurs in the 
background.
For that reason, we've not too recently added a preference which allows to 
disable the
creation of those snippets. 

In order to disable the snippets, please install the nightly version of GPGMail 
from
http://nightly.gpgtools.org.
After that open the GPGMail Preferences in Mail.app and deselect the 'Create 
preview snippets'
checkbox.

If your problem still persists, we'll have to investigate further and it would 
be great
if you could open a new discussion on support.gpgtools.org.

@Tim

You're absolutely correct, popping up a dialog box for a background task is 
terrible,
but in GPGMail 2.0 which is a complete rewrite we've mostly adapted Apple's 
S/MIME
implementation.
This also resulted in this behaviour to be adapted which is used to generate 
the aforementioned
preview snippets. The decryption is only in cache and the decrypted message 
snippet is not permanently
stored. 

With GPGMail 2.0 we've started to focus more than ever to make the tools 
simpler and easier to use
and I think you'll like the direction we're heading to.

Hope that helps.

Best,

Lukas

Am 17.07.2012 um 18:56 schrieb Tim Bradshaw:

> On 17 Jul 2012, at 15:28, Nicholas Cole wrote:
> 
>> My best guess is that it might have been the Mail.app plugin, but I
>> hadn't received any gpg mails.  Is there anything that might have
>> caused Mail.app to suddenly attempt to decode messages in saved
>> folders?   Because of another bug, I had to delete Mail.app's cache of
>> my IMAP folders this afternoon, so I think those caches have been or
>> are being regenerated.  Could that have caused the Mail.app plugin to
>> attempt to decode a message?
> 
> [I'm pretty sure no one is still alive here: I think they all went to some 
> web-based thing, as you do if you are supporting a tool for dealing with 
> mail.]
> 
> If you're using Lion then the answer is "Mail.app can do this, and it's 
> probably related to indexing things, as you suggest".  If I still cared then 
> I'd point out that:
> - popping up a focus-stealing dialog box when you are not in the foreground 
> is just terrible user-interface style (I know, this is not unique to this 
> case);
> - so Mail.app needs to decrypt my mail for its own reasons - what possible 
> good reason could it have to do this (for instance, is it indexing the mail? 
> because there might just be some security issues about an application which 
> thinks that is a good idea).
> 
> But I think, sadly, this is all a lost cause.  Note I'm not trying to be rude 
> to the GPGMail people: I'm sure they're dealing with application frameworks 
> designed by people who just don't care any more about users who have anything 
> but the most trivial requirements, and it's really hard to get this stuff 
> right.
> 
> --tim
> 
> 
> -- 
> Tim Bradshaw
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