Just to add my opinion to the pot, I agree that having gPodder
automatically download podcasts when minimised is a valuable feature
that I would like to see (and would use!)

Paul
On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 23:12 +0000, Shane Donohoe wrote:
> OK, firstly I apologise for not changing the topic from the default. I
> only noticed afterwards and maybe changing it now is actually a bad
> idea.
> 
> Anyway, I agree with you about not having too many buttons on the
> notification bar, but I do think that the downloading should still be
> automatic when gpodder is minimized to the tray. It is nice to open it
> again later and have all your episodes there. Maybe adding a download
> automatically option is a good idea.
> 
> On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 00:07 +0100, Thomas Perl wrote:
> > Hello!
> > 
> > On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 16:10 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > I agree completly with you. 
> > > I propose to modify the tray icon this way:
> > > 
> > > When new episodes are found:
> > > 
> > > * the option "auto-dowload new episodes" is ON: 
> > >     - notify "x new episodes where found. Download will start
> > > immediatly..."
> > >     - notification as 2 buttons "cancel" and "show"
> > >     - after 5 s, if cancel wasn't pressed, download starts
> > > automaticaly
> > > 
> > > * the option "auto-dowload new episodes" is OFF: 
> > >     - notify "x new episodes where found"
> > >     - notification as 3 buttons "download all news", "select episodes"
> > > and "show" 
> > > 
> > > What do you and other people thing about that?
> > 
> > I think all these special cases make configuring and using gPodder
> > harder than it should be. I agree with you on the problems with gPodder
> > popping up randomly.
> > 
> > The purpose of "auto-download new episodes" is that a user that wants to
> > download new episodes doesn't have to click on "download new episodes"
> > after clicking "refresh feeds", so the menu item would better be
> > described as "auto-download new episodes after a manual feed update",
> > which would already tell us the way to go. In my opinion, when gPodder
> > is minimized to the tray icon, it should only tell the user that new
> > episodes are available or that downloads have been finished. Although
> > the buttons in the notification bubble are nice, I think they are a bad
> > idea for interacting the way we use it currently. The buttons in the
> > notification area are more useful for things like "don't show me this
> > again" or in case of an error "show the logfile" or such things.
> > 
> > Interaction with gPodder should only happen when it is not minimized. If
> > you are letting yourself be distracted by the notification bubble (and
> > try to read and click on it), you might as well only get a notification
> > and if you want to act upon it, open gPodder and carry out the actions
> > you want to do.
> > 
> > The timeout in the notification bubbles with action buttons also gives a
> > "hurry, hurry - you have to do something now!" kind of feeling - same
> > with instant messengers - that surely interrupt the normal workflow.
> > 
> > In my opinion, we should throw out the action buttons completely and
> > make gPodder behave nice and non-intrusive when minimized. This means:
> > only notification bubbles for the following scenarios:
> > 
> >  * New episodes are available
> >  * Downloads have been finished
> >  (did I forget something here?)
> > 
> > Also, the "new episodes are available" notification should only be shown
> > once, not every time the feed cache gets updated.
> > 
> > When gPodder is minimized, updating the feed cache (automatically or
> > manually) should never trigger an automatic download. The option
> > mentioned above should only come into effect when the feed update was
> > initiated manually and gPodder was not minimized.
> > 
> > What do you think? Anybody willing to implement it this way? I still
> > want to do the new sync code, so any help with fixing the tray icon
> > problems is really appreciated!
> > 
> > Thomas
> 
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