Thanks. This will be a help for debugging.
Michael
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On Jan 30, 2008, at 8:44 AM, Gerald Nelson wrote:
If you run the batch file from a command window you should be able
to see
keep the output (if you run the batch file by clicking on it, batch
opens
one up, runs the script and then closes it when it's done
automatically,
even if there are errors in the window). Or you can run grass63
from an msys
shell window and see output there.
Jerry
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Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] WinGRASS needs TclTk 8.4
On Jan 30, 2008, at 2:01 AM, Paul Kelly wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Michael Barton wrote:
Actually I tried that and it still didn't work, though maybe for
other reasons.
Can you say what the exact problem is - detailed description, exact
error message and so on? It seems people are trying to help but are
just guessing at what the solution is because the problem isn't
clear: "still didn't work" really isn't very helpful.
Paul,
Thought I described this much earlier in the thread. Sorry. I can't
say what the error message is because GRASS starts to launch, the
Windows terminal flashes and then all shuts down. If there is a
message in the terminal, my eyes can't catch it in the 5-10ms that
it's displayed. Switching back to TclTk 8.4 works...but I don't know
why.
A couple more guesses from me:
1) gis.m not starting may be due to the name or path to the wish
executable. Have you tried setting the GRASS_WISH environment
variable to point to this? (either the full path to wish.exe or, if
the directory it's in is already in the path but it has a non-
standard name, then just that name, e.g. wish85.exe) In Windows you
can set environment variables by right-clicking on My Computer on
the Desktop and selecting Properties, then clicking on the Advanced
Tab followed by the Environment Variables button.
There was the issue, mentioned by Jerry Nelson, that the ActiveStates
TclTk binaries for 8.5 forget to create a symlink to wish8.5, etc.
This can be fixed manually. However, even with that fixed, we were
still getting the startup/shutdown behavior.
2) NVIZ links Tcl/Tk functions into an executable program and is
more complicated in its usage of Tcl/Tk than gis.m. If you are
using GRASS binaries and they've been compiled against Tcl/Tk 8.4,
then it's quite likely there could be incompatibilities that mean
something won't work with Tcl/Tk 8.5. Perhaps the usual problem
that Markus suggested or something else. Perhaps re-compiling
WinGRASS against Tcl/Tk 8.5 would work here.
Possibly the case. These are binaries and I assume that they are
compiled against 8.4.
Over Christmas, I compiled Tcl/Tk 8.5 myself on Windows and
compiled GRASS against that. Everything seemed to work well and
those binaries should be able to be included in a GRASS binary
distribution to reduce the likelihood of incompatiblities such as
Michael seems to be experiencing.
This is absolutely the ideal. If we distributed the TclTk that GRASS
is compiled against, we avoid almost all of the problems. This is the
way that William Kyngesbury has done the binary creation and
distribution system for the Mac version. Compile against some version
of TclTk and then include the TclTk executables in $GISBASE/bin for
the binary. By and large this is very reliable.
Michael
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Director of Graduate Studies
School of Human Evolution & Social Change
Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
Arizona State University
Phone: 480-965-6262
Fax: 480-965-7671
www: <www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton>
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