I'm sorry if I sounded too harsh, I just want to see some progress, as it's not possible to hold back next release infinitely if nobody is working on fixes for Mac. A Mac using developer, of course, would be the best solution. If not, probably next GRASS release will be with reduced functionality on Mac (read - some bugs will not get fixed). Sorry. No developers == no fixes.
Maris. 2012/11/12 Michael Barton <[email protected]>: > Maris, > > Volumes are broken on the Mac, not on Linux AFAIK. I don't know about Windows. > > While a lot of people USE GRASS on Macs, so far not many develop on it. > Currently, William Kyngesburye and I are the only people doing this AFAIK, > with Helena and Agustin Diaz doing systematic testing. There is a similar > imbalance for Windows it seems. Maybe it is because more Linux users like to > 'tinker' with their systems, while most Mac and Windows users just want to > use the software. The classes that Helena and I teach help a lot in getting > new testing done for Widows and Mac, but happen only periodically. Currently, > for example, GRASS 7 for windows does not work for any of my students. But in > mid-semester I'm up to my eyeballs in classes, proposals, admin > responsibilities, etc. Helena is too. We need to get more Mac users (and > Windows users too) to get involved with GRASS development. This is probably a > better solution than chipping in for a new Mac in Italy, because Mac users > will be more familiar with their systems. Anyway, enough whining. > > From what I can tell... > Volumes work on 10.6 when compiled on 10.6 > Volumes do not work on any system when compiled on 10.8 > Volumes compiled on 10.6 do not work on 10.8 (I think, but this needs a > little more testing) > > The apparent error has to do with memory. The initialization of volumes work > fine. The crash comes with the display refresh when you try to adjust > anything. The debug output that I posted to track shows that the crash > happens after a memory pointer assignment. There is no such assignment > statement called for the volume initialization. I don't know where that > statement is located in the code and I currently don't have time right now to > try to find it and track where it is called and what it calls. With some help > on that front I (or Helena or someone else maybe) could try commenting it out > or changing it and see what happens. > > Volume display seems to work fine for the TclTk version of NVIZ, even in 10.8 > (testing in GRASS 6.4.2 only so far). > > That is the extent of what I know at the moment. > > I wish we had a many people developing and testing for the Mac as we do for > Linux. But it takes time to develop that community. Releasing a stable > version in which the entire volume functionality is not useable will not help > in that regard. So we just have to keep plugging away with the resources we > have. > > Cheers > Michael > > ____________________ > C. Michael Barton > Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity > Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution & Social Change > Arizona State University > > voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-727-9746 (CSDC) > fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) > www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.edu > > > > On Nov 12, 2012, at 7:06 AM, Helena Mitasova <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Maris, hold on - I was tied up with conferences and other things so I could >> not follow up with testing but >> I will try the volumes this week on 10.8 - I have it at work so I don't have >> it as handy as 10.6 that I have at home, >> and I need some extra time for testing on 10.8(is it possible that it is >> only Michael, William and myself who have Mac?) >> >> Also I have been getting complaints about r.mapcalc in the command console >> on MS Windows >> - I was able to run it but I had to remove the quotes and I still don't know >> exactly what combination of >> spaces/not-spaces, quotes/not-quotes works on MS Windows so the students >> have to run mapcalc from GUI. >> (all combinations work on Mac) >> Just yesterday there were some new troubles with r.thin and other commands >> in our flow routing >> assignments that run in GUI but not in the Command console on windows. >> (it is this - you can try to run it on MSWin in command console) >> http://courses.ncsu.edu/mea582/common/GIS_anal_grass/GIS_Anal_grflow.html >> Most of these troubles may be already fixed as this is GRASS6.4.3svn from >> september, >> but I just would like to point out that there may be still problems. >> >> I normally try to test as soon as I hear about the problems, but I have >> MacOS10.6 at home where >> I can test right away, it gets more complicated in terms of logistics if it >> is MS Windows or MacOS10.8 >> And lot of the reported problems are just user error so I don't want to >> submit a bug report >> before confirming that there is a real problem. >> >> Helena >> >> >> >> Helena Mitasova >> Associate Professor >> Department of Marine, Earth, and Atmospheric Sciences >> 2800 Faucette Drive, Rm. 1125 Jordan Hall >> North Carolina State University >> Raleigh, NC 27695-8208 >> [email protected] >> >> "All electronic mail messages in connection with State business which are >> sent to or received by this account are subject to the NC Public Records Law >> and may be disclosed to third parties.” >> >> On Nov 12, 2012, at 3:41 AM, Maris Nartiss wrote: >> >>> Sorry, Michael, but I also couldn't reproduce this issue on my AMD64 >>> Gentoo Linux system. Also code paths leading to crash site seemed to >>> be reasonable. Could it be a bug outside of GRASS (in ctypes?)? >>> >>> No help unless somebody donates a new Mac to Martin or some other >>> WXGUI person for GRASS on Mac testing, as it's not possible to >>> download a free MacOS image for running in a VM. >>> >>> >>> Maris. >>> >>> 2012/11/12 Michael Barton <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>> On Nov 11, 2012, at 1:00 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>> >>>> From: Helmut Kudrnovsky <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] GRASS 6.4.3 release planning >>>> Date: November 10, 2012 4:22:01 PM MST >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> we may slowly consider 6.4.3RC2 to be prepared. >>>> >>>> >>>> +1 for RC2. Martin >>>> >>>> >>>> maybe it's worth to have a look at: >>>> >>>> wingrass6.4.3svn: raster3d problems >>>> http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/1784 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> best regards >>>> Helmut >>>> >>>> >>>> And volume display does not work at all for the most current 2 OS versions >>>> for Mac (versions after OS X 10.6). >>>> >>>> http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/1736 >>>> >>>> Michael >>>> ____________________ >>>> C. 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