Here is the command: v.in.ascii --overwrite input=/Users/cmbarton/sites_out/sites_out.csv output=sites_test separator=, skip=1 x=15 y=16 cat=0
Here is the projection g.proj -p -PROJ_INFO------------------------------------------------- name : Universal Transverse Mercator proj : utm zone : 30 no_defs : defined datum : eur50 ellps : international towgs84 : -131,-100.3,-163.4,-1.244,-0.020,-1.144,9.39 -PROJ_UNITS------------------------------------------------ unit : Meter units : Meters meters : 1 Here is the csv file: Once imported, take a look at the sites in the lower left. You can see the pairs of sites that should be the same location. Michael ____________________ C. Michael Barton Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution & Social Change Arizona State University voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-727-9746 (CSDC) fax: 480-965-7671 (SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC) www: http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton, http://csdc.asu.edu On Jun 8, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Markus Metz <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Michael Barton <[email protected]> wrote: >> I just came across something that is very disturbing. >> >> I imported a batch of points from a CSV file. >> >> 2 points have the same geographic location (they are a single archaeological >> site occupied at different time periods) >> >> I import them into a UTM Zone 30 European Datum 1950 location and they are >> georeferenced using the following values: >> >> x coordinate = -31415 and y coordinate = 4116150 >> >> Once they are in GRASS, however, they show up in 2 different places on my >> map. I captured the coordinates from the screen and did a query on both >> points and the results agree. Here are the reported locations of the 2 >> points >> >> East = -31418.8180586, North = 4116177.13863 >> East = -30639.9940711, North = 4116551.27956 >> >> The coordinates are significantly different from each AND from the imported >> coordinates of the 2 points. It looks like one of the points is place close >> to (but not exactly) on the original north coordinate and the other points >> is placed close to (but not exactly) on the original east coordinate. >> >> What is going on here??? > > Can you provide CSV file with the 2 points and the exact commands you > used? A simple import should not change the coordinates. > > Markus M
cat,SITE,PROVINCE,KIND_DATE,SHELL,L_MIN1S,L_MAX1S,L_MEAN1S,S_MIN1S,S_MAX1S,S_MEAN1S,D_MIN1S,D_MAX1S,D_MEAN1S,X,Y 1,Abautz,Alava,1,0,6562,6673,6617.5,,,,,,,605864,4761078 2,Abric de la Falguera,Alacant,1,0,0,0,0,7324,7488,7406,7324,7488,7406,711687,4283278 3,Abric de la Falguera,Alacant,0,0,0,0,0,8322,8394,8358,,,,711687,4283278 4,Abrigo de la Dehesa,Soria,2,0,7796,7928,7862,,,,,,,538088,4559967 5,Abrigo de los Ba??os,Teruel,0,0,8480,8946,8713,,,,,,,703225,4545671 6,Abrigo de Pe??a 14,Zaragoza,0,0,8393,8540,8466.5,,,,,,,672343,4696401 7,Abrigo del Angel 1,Teruel,0,0,8721,8977,8849,,,,,,,719570,4513361 8,Abrigo del Angel 2,Teruel,2,0,7760,7926,7843,7269,7414,7342,,,,719570,4513369 9,Aizpea,Navarra,2,0,0,0,0,7253,7416,7335,,,,642280,4756420 10,Aizpea,Navarra,0,0,0,0,0,8457,8635,8546,,,,642280,4756420 11,Almonda,Santarem,1,0,0,0,0,7324,7422,7373,,,,33626,4387236 12,Alto de Rodilla,Burgos,1,0,0,0,0,7005,7159,7082,,,,459153,4699481 13,Arapouco,Lisboa,0,1,0,0,0,7795,7946,7871,,,,18081,4254686 14,Arenaza,Vizcaya,1,0,0,0,0,6788,6989,6889,6788,6989,6889,490732,4791329 15,Arma?ﾼao Nova,Faro,0,1,0,0,0,8452,8584,8518,,,,-30626,4116558 16,Atxoste,Alava,1,0,0,0,0,7020,7244,7132,,,,543075,4735100 17,Atxoste,Alava,0,0,0,0,0,8211,8367,8289,,,,543075,4735100 18,Bajondillo,Malaga,0,0,8203,8371,8287,,,,,,,366325,4054313 19,Barruecos,Caceres,1,0,6888,6999,6943.5,,,,,,,170661,4369282 20,Benamer,Alacant,1,0,0,0,0,7431,7551,7491,,,,724885,4296107 21,Benamer,Alacant,0,0,0,0,0,8214,8376,8295,,,,724885,4296107 22,Boquiteria de los Moros,Teruel,2,0,0,0,0,7029,7252,7141,,,,767779,4554792 23,Boquiteria de los Moros,Teruel,0,0,0,0,0,8364,8430,8397,,,,767779,4554792 24,Buraca Grande,Leiria,0,0,7762,7930,7846,,,,,,,31103,4437523 25,Buraco da Pala,Braganza,1,0,6656,6726,6691,,,,,,,72922,4561108 26,Ca l'Estrada,Girona,1,0,0,0,0,6485,6627,6556,,,,948450,4619899 27,Cabe?ﾼo da Amoreira,Santarem,2,0,0,0,0,7177,7311,7244,,,,25613,4345391 28,Cabe?ﾼo da Amoreira,Santarem,0,0,0,0,0,8021,8179,8100,,,,25613,4345391 29,Cabe?ﾼo da Arruda,Santarem,0,0,8176,8327,8251.5,8206,8428,8317,,,,22942,4352130 30,Cabe?ﾼo das Amoreiras,Setubal,0,0,0,0,0,7979,8153,8066,,,,27177,4244764 31,Cabe?ﾼo do Rebolador,Setubal,0,1,0,0,0,7569,7675,7622,,,,-29656,4317108 32,Cabezo de la Cruz,Zaragoza,0,0,7871,8028,7949.5,,,,,,,656553,4603236 33,Cabranosa,Faro,1,1,0,0,0,7474,7580,7527,,,,-25154,4118547 34,Caldeirao,Santarem,1,0,0,0,0,7166,7412,7289,7166,7412,7289,49652,4402372 35,Can Bellsola,Barcelona,1,0,7024,7262,7143,,,,,,,938385,4614291 36,Can Roqueta,Barcelona,1,0,0,0,0,7274,7415,7345,,,,924026,4611746 37,Can Sadurni,Barcelona,1,0,0,0,0,7318,7417,7368,7318,7417,7368,893863,4573034 38,Can Xammar,Barcelona,1,0,7170,7249,7209.5,,,,,,,954172,4612866 39,Canaleja 2,Caceres,1,0,7013,7169,7091,,,,,,,268691,4402909 40,Cariguela,Granada,1,0,0,0,0,7168,7246,7207,,,,466350,4151579 41,Carrascal,Lisboa,1,0,0,0,0,7174,7252,7213,7174,7252,7213,-58228,4304981 42,Casa Corona,Alacant,0,0,0,0,0,7858,7951,7905,,,,682053,4283170 43,Casa da Moura,Leiria,1,0,0,0,0,6746,6894,6820,,,,-36611,4379318 44,Casa Montero,Madrid,1,0,7332,7461,7396.5,7017,7167,7092,7017,7167,7092,455421,4472852 45,Casal da Cerca,Setubal,2,0,7002,7156,7079,,,,,,,-10245,4286591 46,Castalejo,Faro,0,0,8187,8355,8271,,,,,,,-31415,4116150 47,Castelejo,Faro,2,1,0,0,0,7317,7427,7372,,,,-31415,4116150 48,Castelo Belinho,Faro,1,0,0,0,0,6500,6662,6581,,,,7079,4129860 49,Cerro Virtud,Almeria,1,0,0,0,0,6797,6941,6869,,,,606900,4125400 50,Chaves,Huesca,1,0,7576,7672,7624,7435,7499,7467,7435,7499,7467,731585,4697354 51,Cingle del Mas Cremat,Castello,1,0,0,0,0,6795,6930,6863,,,,730499,4487531 52,Cingle del Mas Cremat,Castello,0,0,0,0,0,7595,7675,7635,,,,730499,4487531 53,Cingle del Mas Nou,Castello,0,0,0,0,0,7701,7788,7745,,,,744649,4478164 54,Codella,Girona,1,0,0,0,0,6440,6625,6533,,,,951287,4682283 55,Costa do Pereiro,Portoalegre,0,0,0,0,0,8049,8182,8116,,,,100393,4497231 56,Costamar,Castello,1,0,0,0,0,6787,6888,6838,6787,6888,6838,768888,4448220 57,Cova Avellaner,Girona,1,0,0,0,0,6502,6739,6621,,,,953503,4682215 58,Cova d'en Pardo,Alacant,1,0,0,0,0,7463,7563,7513,7463,7563,7513,734576,4299808 59,Cova da On?ﾼa,Santarem,0,0,0,0,0,7939,7997,7968,,,,5380,4339726 60,Cova de l'Or,Alacant,1,0,0,0,0,7332,7429,7381,7332,7429,7381,728872,4302911 61,Cova de la Sarsa,Valencia,1,0,0,0,0,7338,7463,7401,7338,7463,7401,712396,4290367 62,Cova de les Cendres,Alacant,1,0,7515,7665,7590,7335,7475,7405,7335,7475,7405,774131,4286321 63,Cova del Petroli,Castello,1,0,6796,6907,6851.5,,,,,,,762314,4450158 64,Cova del Toll,Barcelona,1,0,0,0,0,7320,7417,7369,7320,7417,7369,927673,4640904 65,Cova del Vidre,Tarragona,1,0,6952,7233,7092.5,,,,,,,804311,4512714 66,Cova Font Major,Tarragona,1,0,0,0,0,7174,7270,7222,7174,7270,7222,842916,4588804 67,Cova Fosca,Castello,1,0,7959,8154,8056.5,,,,,,,745109,4478201 68,Cova Fosca Ebo,Alacant,1,0,0,0,0,7312,7416,7364,7312,7416,7364,745959,4297688 69,Cova Sant Mart?�,Alacant,1,0,0,0,0,6485,6627,6556,,,,706902,4257312 70,Cueva Chica de Santiago,Sevilla,1,0,6911,7172,7041.5,,,,,,,244679,4212962 71,Cueva de la Cocina,Valencia,0,0,0,0,0,8380,8426,8403,,,,696231,4347285 72,Cueva de la Dehesilla,Cadiz,1,0,7011,7274,7142.5,,,,,,,262347,4061900 73,Cueva de la Higuera,Madrid,1,0,0,0,0,7029,7259,7144,,,,457100,4522700 74,Cueva de los Marmoles,Cordoba,1,0,0,0,0,7023,7164,7094,7023,7164,7094,390490,4141562 75,Cueva de los Murcielagos A.,Granada,1,0,0,0,0,6884,7141,7013,,,,481549,4071389 76,Cueva de los Murcielagos C.,Cordoba,1,0,7173,7262,7217.5,6991,7156,7074,6991,7156,7074,384920,4155980 77,Cueva de Nerja,Malaga,1,0,0,0,0,7438,7552,7495,7438,7552,7495,435125,4063505 78,Cueva del Gato,Zaragoza,1,0,7029,7252,7140.5,,,,,,,717305,4471148 79,Cueva del Hoyo de la Mina,Malaga,1,0,6995,7171,7083,,,,,,,376420,4065292 80,Cueva del Lagrimal,Alacant,0,0,0,0,0,7760,7926,7843,,,,672789,4264302 81,Cueva del Toro,Malaga,1,0,7167,7318,7242.5,,,,,,,377815,4097144 82,Cueva Lobrega,Rioja,1,0,0,0,0,7005,7251,7128,,,,530084,4676805 83,El Barranquet,Valencia,1,0,0,0,0,7332,7478,7405,7332,7478,7405,748796,4312842 84,El Cavet,Tarragona,1,0,7476,7569,7522.5,,,,,,,841242,4554716 85,El Congosto,Madrid,1,0,0,0,0,6791,6930,6861,,,,452773,4464420 86,El Mirador,Burgos,1,0,7851,7941,7896,7172,7267,7220,7172,7267,7220,457520,4688769 87,El Miron,Cantabria,1,0,6482,6715,6598.5,6300,6395,6348,6300,6395,6348,463479,4791123 88,Esplugon,Huesca,0,0,0,0,0,7714,7836,7775,,,,717771,4716236 89,Fiais,Faro,0,0,7765,7934,7849.5,7025,7268,7147,,,,-1096,4167325 90,Font de la Vena,Alacant,1,0,6969,7243,7106,,,,,,,928801,4678847 91,Font del Ros,Lleida,1,0,7426,7551,7488.5,,,,,,,909922,4674193 92,Forcas II,Huesca,0,0,0,0,0,8002,8155,8079,,,,784889,4678141 93,Forcas II,Huesca,2,0,7680,7785,7732.5,7577,7653,7615,,,,784889,4678141 94,Forno da Telha,Leiria,0,0,0,0,0,7586,7655,7621,,,,-24050,4377527 95,Fuente Celada,Burgos,1,0,0,0,0,6943,7151,7047,,,,438159,4694314 96,Gruta do Correio-Mor,Lisboa,1,0,7177,7413,7295,7173,7317,7245,,,,-35684,4315522 97,Herriko Barra,Guipuzcua,0,0,0,0,0,6739,6966,6853,,,,568854,4793560 98,Hostal Guadalupe,Malaga,1,0,0,0,0,7175,7262,7219,7163,7246,7205,366336,4053724 99,Huerto Raso,Huesca,1,0,7168,7293,7230.5,,,,,,,750465,4679719 100,Kampanoste Goikoa,Alava,0,0,0,0,0,7184,7416,7300,,,,649985,4724206 101,Kobaederra,Vizcaya,1,0,6301,6501,6401,6018,6280,6149,6018,6280,6149,530631,4801316 102,La Dou,Girona,1,0,6354,6497,6425.5,,,,,,,949884,4676483 103,La Draga,Girona,1,0,7279,7417,7348,7019,7158,7089,7019,7158,7089,971781,4678141 104,La Lampara,Soria,1,0,7938,7995,7966.5,7294,7416,7355,7167,7259,7213,540842,4556555 105,La Paleta,Toledo,1,0,0,0,0,7486,7581,7534,7486,7581,7534,427056,4439369 106,La Paleta,Toledo,1,0,0,0,0,6636,6732,6684,6636,6732,6684,427056,4439369 107,La Revilla del Campo,Soria,1,0,7958,8007,7982.5,7256,7410,7333,7258,7314,7286,540703,4558000 108,La Serreta,Barcelona,1,0,7328,7436,7382,,,,,,,892965,4586827 109,La Vaquera,Segovia,1,0,7798,7955,7876.5,7324,7421,7373,,,,411152,4549058 110,Las Torrazas,Teruel,1,0,6305,6402,6353.5,,,,,,,738886,4545290 111,Les Guixeres,Barcelona,1,0,0,0,0,7501,7575,7538,7501,7575,7538,884841,4598646 112,Los Cascajos,Navarra,1,0,7324,7419,7371.5,7030,7258,7144,7030,7258,7144,566524,4709847 113,Los Castillejos,Granada,1,0,0,0,0,7173,7271,7222,7173,7271,7222,412737,4124965 114,Los Gitanos,Cantabria,1,0,0,0,0,6678,6849,6764,,,,481626,4800845 115,Los Husos I,Rioja,1,0,0,0,0,7028,7253,7141,,,,536083,4716948 116,Los Husos II,Rioja,1,0,0,0,0,6803,6952,6878,,,,536803,4716948 117,Mas d'Is,Alacant,1,0,0,0,0,7498,7578,7538,7498,7578,7538,726300,4285500 118,Mendandia,Burgos,2,0,0,0,0,7308,7426,7367,,,,533033,4731087 119,Mendandia,Burgos,0,0,0,0,0,8524,8642,8583,,,,533033,4731087 120,Moita da Sebastiao,Muge,0,0,0,0,0,7983,8159,8071,,,,19072,4344020 121,Molino de Arriba,Burgos,1,0,0,0,0,6943,7151,7047,,,,432380,4685485 122,Monte dos Remedios,Pontevedra,1,0,6511,6639,6575,,,,,,,25550,4697223 123,Montes de Baixos,Beja,0,1,0,0,0,8216,8409,8313,,,,-13997,4156925 124,Novelda,Alacant,1,0,7269,7414,7341.5,,,,,,,694690,4251353 125,Paco Pons,Zaragoza,1,0,6799,6952,6875.5,,,,,,,669854,4694859 126,Padrao,Faro,1,1,0,0,0,7427,7559,7493,,,,-16984,4120317 127,Padre Areso,Navarra,1,0,6016,6283,6149.5,,,,,,,651741,4728108 128,Parco,Lleida,1,0,6980,7164,7072,,,,,,,851222,4644314 129,Paternanbidea,Navarra,1,0,6891,7137,7014,,,,,,,602124,4738837 130,Pena d'Agua,Santarem,1,0,7585,7666,7625.5,,,,,,,39708,4394001 131,Pe??a Larga,Alava,1,0,0,0,0,7521,7617,7569,7521,7617,7569,539805,4718182 132,Pe??a Oviedo,Cantabria,1,0,5920,5986,5953,,,,,,,359409,4778772 133,Pico Ramos,Vizcaya,0,0,0,0,0,7611,7756,7684,,,,489034,4796744 134,Pla?ﾼa Vila de Madrid,Barcelona,1,0,0,0,0,7325,7420,7373,,,,932647,4594688 135,Plansallosa I,Girona,1,0,7002,7164,7083,,,,,,,973688,4696280 136,Po?ﾼas de Sao Bento,Setubal,0,0,7584,7671,7627.5,,,,,,,16865,4247621 137,Pontet,Zaragoza,2,0,7253,7416,7334.5,,,,,,,769753,4565612 138,Pontet,Zaragoza,0,0,8036,8278,8157,,,,,,,769753,4565612 139,Portalon,Burgos,1,0,8485,8607,8546,6890,7151,7021,,,,458757,4688784 140,Prazo,Guarda,1,0,6471,6628,6549.5,6353,6446,6400,,,,132952,4563954 141,Prazo,Guarda,0,0,8384,8420,8402,7714,7836,7775,,,,132952,4563954 142,Puyascada,Huesca,1,0,6673,6842,6757.5,,,,,,,766274,4701446 143,R. Gaviotas,Faro,0,0,7627,7744,7685.5,,,,,,,-29656,4120276 144,R. Gaviotas,Faro,2,1,0,0,0,7315,7418,7367,,,,-29656,4120276 145,Retamar,Cadiz,1,1,0,0,0,7570,7687,7629,,,,222786,4041892 146,Retamar,Cadiz,0,1,0,0,0,8061,8347,8204,,,,222786,4041892 147,Rib. De Magos,Santarem,0,0,0,0,0,7858,7951,7905,,,,6100,4333487 148,Riols I,Zaragoza,1,0,6746,7140,6943,,,,,,,775454,4585424 149,Roca Chica,Malaga,1,0,0,0,0,7029,7269,7149,7029,7269,7149,366336,4053724 150,Samoqueira I,Setubal,0,0,0,0,0,7253,7416,7335,,,,-14720,4217575 151,San Juliao,Lisboa,0,1,0,0,0,8006,8174,8090,,,,-57727,4328448 152,Sant Pau del Camp,Bacelona,1,0,0,0,0,7170,7261,7216,,,,933171,4594133 153,Sao Pedro de Canaferrim,Lisboa,1,0,6800,7138,6969,,,,,,,-55613,4310402 154,Senhora das Lapas,Santarem,1,0,0,0,0,6883,7155,7019,,,,35602,4397837 155,Serrat del Pont,Girona,1,0,0,0,0,7328,7428,7378,,,,959020,4689602 156,Tossal de la Roca,Alacant,0,0,0,0,0,8397,8538,8468,,,,736276,4297275 157,Tossal de les Basses,Alacant,1,0,0,0,0,6680,6855,6768,6680,6855,6768,722471,4249032 158,Valada do Mato,Evora,1,0,6797,6941,6869,,,,,,,51201,4289379 159,Vale Boi,Faro,1,0,0,0,0,6894,7140,7017,6805,6943,6874,-24450,4117807 160,Vale Boi,Setubal,0,0,0,0,0,8204,8388,8296,,,,-24450,4117807 161,Vale do Romeiras,Setubal,0,1,0,0,0,8067,8333,8200,,,,25704,4259102 162,Vale Pincel,Setubal,2,0,7508,7616,7562,,,,,,,-9109,4220745 163,Vale Pincel,Setubal,0,0,7572,7651,7611.5,,,,,,,-9109,4220745 164,Vale Santo1,Faro,1,1,0,0,0,7028,7256,7142,,,,-11418,4130280 165,Ventana,Madrid,1,0,0,0,0,7183,7410,7297,7183,7410,7297,455640,4522170 166,Vidigal,Faro,0,0,0,0,0,7440,7580,7510,,,,-1987,4198487
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