Ciao Roberta,

I have to admit, that I did not study the papers myself, so I don`t know how 
complex the approaches there are when it comes to the details.

In general, I think a good single image cloud detection will be very valuable 
to have (and will be useful for a wider user-group). Furthermore, I would 
assume that any multi-temporal approach would need to be based on some sort of 
single image cloud detection… So the work you are doing now on single scene 
algorithms, will be in any case an important fundament for more involved / 
multitemporal algorithms I guess…
As for single scene algorithms the machine learning approach on sentinelhub 
[2], might be interesting too. Addons [3] or [4] pop into my mind here, that 
could be used for such an approach in GRASS GIS…
TGRASS and temporal buffers [e.g. 1] might come in handy for a multi-temporal 
approach, where you measure variation in reflectance over time or more 
particular between focal image and images before and after…

In very cloudy (and snowy) areas (long periods of cloud cover), a 
multi-temporal approach might not add very much useful information to a single 
image cloud masking procedure (just guessing here).

Cheers
Stefan

1: https://grass.osgeo.org/grass74/manuals/t.rast.algebra.html
2: 
https://medium.com/sentinel-hub/improving-cloud-detection-with-machine-learning-c09dc5d7cf13
3: https://grass.osgeo.org/grass74/manuals/addons/i.ann.maskrcnn.html
4: https://grass.osgeo.org/grass74/manuals/addons/r.learn.ml.html


From: Roberta Fagandini <[email protected]>
Sent: tirsdag 3. juli 2018 17:06
To: Stefan Blumentrath <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]; GRASS developers list <[email protected]>; 
Moritz Lennert <[email protected]>; Roberto Marzocchi 
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] GSoC 2018 report week 07 - GRASS GIS module for 
Sentinel-2 cloud and shadow detection

2018-07-02 10:57 GMT+02:00 Stefan Blumentrath 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:
Ciao Roberta,

Ciao Stefan,


Thanks for all your excellent work and comprehensive documentation and 
information also on dev list.

Thank you, I'm glad you appreciate it and I hope it will be useful for you!


In the light of the discussion around the Sentinel-2 pre-processing wrapper 
script, I was wondering if you plan / were considering to add a multi-temporal 
approach to cloud detection [1,2,3] to your module?

No at the moment, I'm sorry. I have never worked on a multi-temporal approach 
for cloud detection, one of the main goals of my PhD research is indeed the 
definition of a procedure for the identification of clouds on a single image.
Maybe it would take too long to integrate a new multi-temporal approach into 
the project now.


If your GSoC was a "pick and choose event”, I would personally be more than 
satisfied with an “i.atcorr.params” module (or the like) that compiles 6s input 
file (maybe just with simple user input on geometrical conditions, aerosol 
model, …) instead of a wrapper for a full preprocessing chain, if that allows 
you to work on a (at least preliminary) multitemporal could detection procedure…

Maybe you discussed this already with your mentors. So, I have no intentions to 
interfere here, just indicate my personal preferences 😉 …

I have already discussed the next steps of the project with my mentors and we 
thought of integrating other algorithms for cloud detection (e.g. fmask) into 
the module. I'm not able to evaluate if an existant multi-temporal algorithm 
can be easily and quickly integrated into the module.
I will certainly read the links you suggested, but in the meantime, if you have 
more precise ideas about it, please let me know..maybe it could be easier than 
I expect! ;-)

I would like to know what you think, Moritz and Roberto, about the integration 
of a multi-temporal approach in the module.


As for AOT estimation, this paper might be of interest?
http://www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/9/12/1230/htm


Kind regards,
Stefan

Cheers,
Roberta


1: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0034425710000908
2: http://www.cesbio.ups-tlse.fr/multitemp/?p=6832
3: 
https://forum.step.esa.int/t/maccs-maja-now-distributed-as-binary-code-for-non-commercial-use/5500


From: grass-dev 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
On Behalf Of Roberta Fagandini
Sent: søndag 1. juli 2018 11:23
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; GRASS developers list 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [GRASS-dev] GSoC 2018 report week 07 - GRASS GIS module for Sentinel-2 
cloud and shadow detection

Hi all!
I'm Roberta Fagandini and I'm working on my GSoC project, a GRASS GIS module 
for Sentinel-2 cloud and shadow detection.
This is my report for the seventh week of coding.

1) What did I complete this week?
• Continued coding the GRASS python script to execute i.atcorr for all bands of 
the input image changing accordingly the requested input parameters and control 
file [0]
• Changed some lines of the code according to the i.atcorr manual page (e.g. 
lon/lat retrieved from the computational region and not from metadata file) [0]
• Added the automatic computation of mean target elevation from the input dem 
[0]
• Wrote and added the python script for retrieving the aerosol optical 
thickness (AOT) value from AERONET data using Py6S library [1]
• Discussed with dev community about the need to write my own routine to 
retrieve and compute AOT at 550 nm avoiding too many dependencies [2]
• Started writing my own routine to extract and compute AOT at 550 (one of the 
parameters of the i.atcorr control file) [3]
2) What am I going to achieve for next week?
• Finish writing the routine for AOT computation
• Understand how to automatically retrieve some parameters for the control file 
like aerosol and atmospheric models
• Finish defining the automatic procedure for retrieving all the last missing 
parameters for the control file

3) Is there any blocking issue?
No at the moment but the coding of the routine takes more time than expected.

Here the links to my GitHub repository [4] and wiki page [5]

Kind regards,
Roberta

[0] 
https://github.com/RobiFag/GRASS_clouds_and_shadows/commit/52ede2e0e8d157f5b19fbb414c29bbde0e728b13#diff-d42beca70d363fcee5a6ec17260c5129
[1] 
https://github.com/RobiFag/GRASS_clouds_and_shadows/commit/a8757bfaae04c283daab1b03216b3e0d7ed4c885
[2] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/grass-dev/2018-June/088814.html
[3] 
https://github.com/RobiFag/GRASS_clouds_and_shadows/commit/568164ea4f093a3045b2562404ece544d1ff6f0f
[4] https://github.com/RobiFag/GRASS_clouds_and_shadows
[5] https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/GSoC/2018/CloudsAndShadowsDetection


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