Helena, Agreed. That is what I was thinking about in the other email. The only problem I can see is will there be enough contributions when they are not guaranteed to be rewarded *after* all their work? Work done first, compete for a prize later vs. Compete for a grant and work done later. Still, I think the prize idea is definitely worth considering.
Best, Huidae On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 10:09 AM Helena Mitasova <hmit...@ncsu.edu> wrote: > Dear all - I don’t have time right now to write more but as I was reading > the document and thinking about all the pitfalls of paying for work > I was wondering whether we should follow an example from geoforall and do > it as award / prize for the work done - > e.g. Annual award for the best student contribution to GRASS (no invoices > needed, but PSC will need to evaluate the contributions > and let students know about the opportunity). > > Feel free to ignore this suggestion - it just came to mind as Geoforall is > launching "Pitch your research competition, where students will have 5 > minutes to talk about their project showcasing open source, open data or > open standards.” with cash prizes from the OSGeo budget. > > Helena > > > On Nov 16, 2021, at 5:40 AM, Moritz Lennert < > mlenn...@club.worldonline.be> wrote: > > > > Thanks, Vero, for your feedback (and Vaclav for the direct change) ! > > > > Here are some comments/replies. > > > > Am 15.11.2021 21:35 schrieb Veronica Andreo: > >> This is great Moritz! Thanks for taking the lead on this and drafting > >> the call! > >> Here are my comments/questions: > >> - _"be eligible to work in the country in which they reside" --> > >> _maybe this is related to them having a tax number or bank account, no > >> idea. > > > > I think it is more linked to the fact that GSoC pays for a student job, > no ? Or is it also considered a grant ? > > Maybe we can leave this out and only add it in the future if the issue > arises. But IANAL. > > > >> Questions might be if the money goes directly from OSGeo to the > >> student, won't OSGeo need an invoice? If we pay directly from our bank > >> account, do we need it? > > > > If necessary we can provide a standard form for requesting the payment > of the grant which function as invoice. > > > >> - The agreement of a GRASS GIS core developer to mentor the student's > >> work --> Maybe no need to be core, perhaps no need to be dev at all if > >> the student proposes to create educational material. In any case, some > >> sort of mentor would be desired in my opinion. > > > > Agreed. > > I changed to "an active member of the GRASS GIS community". Not sure how > to formulate it differently to ensure inclusion of all categories. > > > >> - In the nature of the grant section, should we set a maximum > >> duration, eg. 2 months or so? > > > > Done > > > >> - In the how to apply section: email with proof of eligibility should > >> be sent to some of us privately I think for data privacy reasons (?). > > > > Yes, that's why I put XYZ as the address. Maybe we can create an @ > osgeo.org address for this ? > > > >> Would be nice to ask them to introduce themselves to the community > >> too, no? Probably once accepted. > > > > Yes, but not sure this needs to be in the grant procedure description. > > > >> - Approval: 2 weeks sound better to me > > > > ok, done > > > >> - Final report: the report in the wiki seems fine to me, could also be > >> the trac wiki where all the GSoC reports live too. > > > > I agree, but this raises the more fundamental question whether in the > long run we want to continue with two wikis, especially with the trac wiki, > knowing that we do not use trac for anything else anymore. > > > >> The final report > >> could be sent to grass-dev and psc mailing lists. > > > > Added. > > > > Moritz > > > > > >> El lun, 15 nov 2021 a las 13:07, Moritz Lennert > >> (<mlenn...@club.worldonline.be>) escribió: > >>> Dear all, > >>> Following the discussions at today's PSC I've written a first draft > >>> of a > >>> call for student grants: > >>> https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Student_Grants [1]. > >>> Several points still need clarification (see comments in > >>> [brackets]). > >>> Feel free to edit as you see necessary. > >>> If we really want to go forward with this still before Christmas, > >>> then > >>> we need to have the final version ready by end of next week the > >>> latest. > >>> Enjoy your weekend ! > >>> Moritz > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> grass-psc mailing list > >>> grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org > >>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc [2] > >> Links: > >> ------ > >> [1] https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Student_Grants > >> [2] https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc > > > > _______________________________________________ > > grass-psc mailing list > > grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org > > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc > > Helena Mitasova > Professor at the Department of Marine, > Earth, and Atmospheric Sciences > Associate director and faculty fellow at the Center for Geospatial > Analytics > North Carolina State University > Raleigh, NC 27695-8208 > hmit...@ncsu.edu > > "All electronic mail messages in connection with State business which are > sent to or received by this account are subject to the NC Public Records > Law and may be disclosed to third parties.” > > _______________________________________________ > grass-psc mailing list > grass-psc@lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc > -- Huidae Cho, Ph.D., GISP, /hidɛ t͡ɕo/, 조희대, 曺喜大 GRASS GIS Developer https://idea.isnew.info/
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