Hey,

Good to see that I'm not the only one with this feeling!

Again I agree. When I said that the software was more or less
irrelevant I meant that what is really needed is the insight to get
things together. I'm sure that  some people here can jump between apps
effortlessly, just because they have this geometric (or whatever)
insight. They just need to learn a new language.

Cheers,
Juan

On Feb 13, 7:53 pm, CMRHM <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi, Juan:
>
> I have same feeling sometimes. Thanks for posting a Q I want to asked
> too!
>
> I like what David said "The actual language-syntax
> is only a small part of this process, far more important is the
> ability to break apart a problem into smaller chunks and a solid grip
> on how data is stored inside a system. "
>
> Isn't this what the daily task our architects face everyday.
>
> I here want to share with you my experiment with component Gradient in
> GH. My goal is to use Gradient to show each Grid color. By Breaking
> down the problem, i found the most interesting part is component sort.
> I used Sort to retrieve the Grid(start) and Grid(last) and use them to
> feed Component Gradient. Now I got the color.
>
> Hopefully this can help a little bit...
> GH:http://grasshopper3d.googlegroups.com/web/test_heightmap.ghx?gda=_n_j...
>
> screen 
> Shot:http://grasshopper3d.googlegroups.com/web/test_heightMap.JPG?gda=KjGd...
>
> On Feb 13, 11:05 am, Juan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi David ad Luis,
>
> > Thanks for your answers guys. I think that you are right, its just
> > that sometimes I get a little frustrated with what I can't do. Guess
> > that I need more hard work :)
>
> > Best,
> > Juan
>
> > On Feb 13, 11:51 am, fraguada <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Juan, David...
>
> > > David, actually I think what you said is quite helpful indeed.  Many
> > > times I hear students saying that "I need a script" or "I need to do
> > > it in grasshopper" and I ask "why?"  In reality, all they have failed
> > > to do is pick up a pen or pencil and go through what it is they really
> > > want to do.  They only see the result they want to achieve, but do
> > > not, as you say, break it down into manegable pieces.  So I ask you
> > > Juan...what is it that you want to do?  From there will emerge
> > > possible geometric relationships and logics which could then be
> > > applied to the workflow.  The searching on the internet wont do much
> > > good if you don't know what it is you are searching for.  So you find
> > > an interesting function...so what?  Its in the process...and while we
> > > can definitely accumulate knowledge and information, each process will
> > > have its own logic based on the application you chose.  This will help
> > > in specifying the issue you are dealing with, and in this case, this
> > > google group can be quite helpful.
>
> > > luis
>
> > > On Feb 13, 10:45 am, David Rutten <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi Juan,
>
> > > > I've read the Bentley book a while back at Siggraph. The graphics are
> > > > fantastic, but the explanations didn't go very deep. I'm afraid I
> > > > don't have any alternatives for you though, I suspect I picked up most
> > > > of geometry-sense while playing with Lego during ages 3~8. There must
> > > > be excellent books out there on geometry, but I think those will only
> > > > cultivate your factual knowledge, not your insight.
>
> > > > Learning to use Grasshopper essentially amounts to the same thing as
> > > > learning to use any programming language. The actual language-syntax
> > > > is only a small part of this process, far more important is the
> > > > ability to break apart a problem into smaller chunks and a solid grip
> > > > on how data is stored inside a system.
>
> > > > Sorry for being no help whatsoever,
> > > > David
>
> > > > --
> > > > David Rutten
> > > > [email protected]
> > > > Robert McNeel & Associates
>
> > > > On Feb 13, 1:22 am, Juan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Hello,
>
> > > > > I am no expert by any means, but since I was introduced to
> > > > > computational design in my master studies I have had the impression
> > > > > that the software that you are using is more or less irrelevant if you
> > > > > can articulate your ideas in a clear geometrical language. I have done
> > > > > scripting in maya, tried houdini for its procedural workflow and right
> > > > > know Im very interested in grasshopper. However I really feel like my
> > > > > geometrical language is seriously lacking when I see some of the
> > > > > projects that you guys generate. With this in mind I would like to
> > > > > risk it and ask how/where can I find information that can enable me to
> > > > > start thinking in a better way? I have seen the bentley geometry for
> > > > > architects book in my ex-office, but well its a bit expensive. Maybe
> > > > > there is a internet repository of algorithms or something similar that
> > > > > can help people like me, that did not have the luck to have a good
> > > > > partner/teacher willing to share this information and instead is
> > > > > trying to learn on his own based on web tutorials and the like.
>
> > > > > Hope that I made sense.
>
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Juan

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