Aaron, Simon, I personally agree with you and I think my collegues from OLPC Croatia agree as well. We should start with that web portal/blog as soon as possible and make it like a real community portal. In parallel we should all have a meeting somewhere in April (Austria?) so we can discuss about concrete staff when we meet face to face. I belive we would be more productive if our development and other teams work together on particular/concrete projects regarding the pilot projects in this year in some countries.
Also, I don't think we should work on the OLPC Europe structure before someone from OLPC (prof. Negroponte?) says that it's ok and good idea. If they don't support that idea - then it's worthless. Does anyone have a concrete answer on that question? Kristijan - OLPC Croatia 2008/3/6, Aaron Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi! > > With all the discussion of olpc europe, how groups should get > organized etc.... here is something to read and ponder about. > We met in person for dinner (thx Helga!) and had to discuss a few > things face to face. > Amongst them the argument between me and Chris about something called > olpc_europe which is not even clearly defined yet, but which was > already announced prematurely on heise.de (biggest IT related news > source in all german speaking countries). > > So the whole group came together and he had this consensus finding > process. > In the end we arrived at the following... (interesting to read!) > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Simon Dorner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: March 4, 2008 6:58:29 PM GMT+01:00 > > To: olpc intern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: [Olpcaustria-intern] What we talked about last week... > > > > Hi everyone! > > > > So this is what i condensed out of our discussion last week: > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > As some of you might have noticed we at OLPC Austria had a quite > > heated discussion about OLPC Europe last week. Eventually the debate > > turned out to be worthwhile and we kind of reached a consensus on > > what we suggest for OLPC Europe. I agreed to sum up our current > > thinking and send it out like this. > > > > We think that OLPC Europe is moving a bit too fast and it needs time > > to evolve more out of a number of strong local groups. The focus > > should be to build and support those local groups first. Therefore we > > suggest that for the time being OLPC Europe should not yet be a fully > > defined and structured legal entity but rather a simple web platform > > for people to get information about what's happening in their and > > other countries. There are two concrete things that we suggest: > > > > 1: Let's create an OLPC Europe web site that consists of an > > aggregated blog of all the individual European groups. Every group > > that wants to join sets up a simple blog and all their news gets > > added to the main blog via RSS. That would be a great resource for > > everyone and is enough for now. > > 2: We think that as long as OLPC Europe is just that, an aggregated > > blog with a common motto, it is absolutely crucial that everyone > > agrees not to use OLPC Europe as a means to generate funding. That > > (along with some basic info text on the web site) must be in the > > small print and has to be agreed to in order to join. Money would > > bring chaos without the right structure - and it's really way too > > early to talk about that structure. > > > > OLPC Europe as a structured legal entity can be founded when the time > > is right and the need for it and broad consensus are there. We also > > think that in order to create a legal organisation we should all meet > > in person and talk. > > > > But first let's all get some work done locally. What do you think? > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > So what do you think? > > > > Simon. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Olpcaustria-intern mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.lo-res.org/mailman/listinfo/olpcaustria-intern > > > > -- > L. Aaron Kaplan > nic.at // csirt.at // cert.at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > +43 1 505 6416 / 46 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Grassroots mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/grassroots > -- Kristijan Fabina Predsjednik HRFreeNeta GSM: +385 99 621 0000 GSM: +385 98 529 797 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hrfreenet.hr http://kiko.dugave.net
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