I that that those are excellent suggestions. And I have no particular ties to ProjectDB personally. What I really want is a conversation about what needs there are in country-level groups that aren't satisfied and how we can do so.
Will you be participating in our meeting Sameer? -Seth On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Sameer Verma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > > Good morning Seth, > > > > sounds like a great topic and I'd love to join in, however that time > > (Friday midnight!!) overlaps with my going-out-and-drinking-beers plans > > so I don't think I'll be able to make it... > > > > I therefore vote for IRC as the means of communication since that would > > allow me to catch up with what was said over the weekend. > > > > In terms of thoughts on the subject I just want to say that for > > "project management" there are tons of tools available and I'm not sure > > whether hacking the ProjectDB and thereby reinventing the wheel makes > > sense. Especially since that requires a lot of resources and whatnot. > > > > So therefore I'm inclined to say that it would be better to scout for > > worthy FOSS PM tools / Web services and then integrate a simple > > export-function from ProjectDB into that other system. > Some good FOSS PM tools: > > Web-based > http://project.net/ (Java based) > http://dotproject.net/ (PHP/MySQL) > http://www.redmine.org/ (Ruby on Rails) > http://www.projectpier.org/ (time management is rudimentary) > > Offline/client based > http://openproj.org/ (Java based) > http://www.openworkbench.org/ (Windows-based) > http://ganttproject.biz/ (has WebDAV-based group feature) > > We use dotProject and Project.net on campus. In my opinion (I teach IT > Project Management) two very critical "features" of PM are the ability > to track resources (time, people, money, etc) and reorganize tasks based > on contingencies (dependency management). > > Trac has a Gantt module, but its not very featureful...at least it > wasn't when we evaluated it in Spring semester. > http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/GanttPlugin > > > Then ProjectDB > > would remain lean and focused and there'd be a clear step in terms of > > project status from "proposal" (as long as it's in ProjectDB) to "work > > in progress" (as soon as moved into that PM tool). > > > > > +1 This workflow needs to be clear. Bogging down a proposal with PM > minutiae will only create more barriers to entry. > > > But then again, I haven't had my morning coffee so I have no idea > > whether what I just wrote makes any sense at all... ;-) > > > > > I just had a solo espresso. The fog in my mind is clearing. San > Francisco remains foggy as usual :-) > > Sameer > > -- > Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. > Associate Professor of Information Systems > San Francisco State University > San Francisco CA 94132 USA > http://verma.sfsu.edu/ > http://opensource.sfsu.edu/ > > > > Thanks, > > Christoph > > > > > > Zitat von Seth Woodworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > >> SJ, Pia Waugh, and I had a very interesting conversation tonight about > >> organizing projects and proposals via a web interface such as Austria's > >> ProjectDB (http://projectdb.olpc.at). While I think that there are > several > >> more things that the wiki can and should be doing via Semantic > MediaWiki, > >> there are several things that wiki will never be able to do. > >> > >> There is a growing need for some project/proposal management tools that > are > >> a little smarter about keeping private information private, which is the > >> current use of the ProjectDB. There are several ways that ProjectDB > could > >> be expanded and used by individual OLPC groups (like olpc.org.au). > >> > >> We're going to have an open meeting on the subject at: > >> > >> * 23:00 Friday, August 15th, UTC > >> **9:00AM Sat .au > >> **6:00PM Fri .us > >> > >> Reply to this thread if you would prefer IRC or Phone and some brief > >> thoughts on the subject. > >> > >> All the best, > >> Seth Woodworth > >> > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Grassroots mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/grassroots > > > > _______________________________________________ > Grassroots mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/grassroots >
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