On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:00 PM, <[email protected]>wrote:
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The Information Train ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:15:28 -0600 > From: Yama Ploskonka <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Grassroots-l] Favorite Projects for XO Development? > To: Grassroots OLPC <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Let me quote John Adams "I must study politics and war that my sons may > have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. My sons ought to study > mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history, naval > architecture, navigation, commerce, and agriculture, in order to give > their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, > statuary, tapestry, and porcelain." > > Right now we are not ready for Constructivism. > > Hopefully the stage of war is over for most of us (scratch that off if > you are you-know-where), but the stage of Industry and Commerce never > yet happened for what we call the Developing World. > > Jumping ahead to discovery and arts, or even something as basic as > sharing, criticism, exploration, while very tempting indeed, might > require quite a while, and *it cannot be forced*, by definition. You > cannot *order* people to be critical thinkers. > > Meanwhile we need *relevance* to what is the system now, so we can > change it *as we go*, while having full buy-in. The whole OLPC project > is doomed because it did not notice that need. We need Content. We > need results, objective ones. > > Sugar has a chance. It is good if it builds an environment for what > Walter points at, of course, yet we need right now to feed the users > what they can take and feel they need. I applaud quite a few people > coming to that conclusion recently, getting closer and closer to the > right answers, so in my lifetime I might see kids among my peoples > getting the second stage of what John Adams was listing, and /then/ we > might look for the third. Yet trying to rush the process will not serve > them much, or the project > > Yama, doing his usual rant > > > Walter Bender wrote: > > There is nothing ambiguous about the Sugar Labs plans: > > > > In Sugar, have in hand the tools to reinvent how computers are used > > for education. Collaboration, reflection, and discovery are readily > > integrated directly into the learning experience. Children and > > teachers have the opportunity to use computers on their own terms, > > reshape, reinvent, and reapply both software and content into powerful > > learning activities. Learning can be focused on sharing, criticism, > > and exploration. We have a lot of work ahead of us to refine these > > tools and to refine the practice around them, but we have a solid > > beginning. > > > > We can raise a generation of critical thinkers, armed with the > > complementary tools of science and the arts. All of the necessary > > tools are freely available under free software licenses. But we do > > need to invest in engaging teachers, parents, and children in learning > > learning. So let's make it happen. > > > > -walter > > > > 2009/2/17 <[email protected]>: > >> On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > >> > >>> Hello Friends, > >>> > >>> OLPC will have a booth this weekend (2/20-2/22) at the Southern > California > >>> Area LInux Expo (SCaLE). This is a large conference (up to 1000) of > >>> open-source aficionados including programmers. It is a great chance to > >>> recruit folks for our team of volunteer developers of Activities for > the XO. > >> I spent a large chunk of time in the OLPC booth last year, and one > >> significant problem was that many people in the booth (including myself) > >> didn't have a good understanding of the politics and/or current status > of > >> things. > >> > >> this year things are _much_ messier, I've been trying to understand > things, > >> but it's been hard. > >> > >> could folks who know what's going on make it a point to check mail > >> frequently this weekend so that as questions come up that the people > there > >> disagree on the answer to the question can be fired off and gat a fairly > >> prompt answer? it won't stop the wrong answer then, but it can at least > get > >> clarified rather than repeating the wrong thing all weekend (or worse, > >> giving several answers) > >> > >> if there is a good 'state of OLPC/Sugar/XO/etc' document to point at > (such > >> as the info that came out in the 'Please update etoys in 8.2.1' thread a > >> couple of weeks ago), it would really help make sure everyone is on the > same > >> page. > >> > >> I will have my two XO's there, I will try to have them running different > >> flavors of DebXO (from USB sticks if nothing else, but quite possibly > from > >> the NAND), since the future direction is to have them run relativly > standard > >> distros, having examples of the different distros would be nice. > >> > >> David Lang > >> > >>> I am putting together a brochure to pass out at the conference and want > to > >>> include information about some of the projects and proposals we have. > Could > >>> you all take a look at the page listed below and make any additions and > >>> updates you would like included? I need this done by Wednesday Noon > (PT). > >>> Thanks! > >>> > >>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects_and_proposals > >>> > >>> Caryl OLPC Support Volunteer > >>> > >>> P.S. Excuse the multiple copies of this if you are subscribed to more > than > >>> one list. I will get several copies myself. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Devel mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Devel mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:24:06 +0000 > From: "Cheryl Landy, Ph.D." <[email protected]> > Subject: [Grassroots-l] unsuscribe please > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > < > 021920091824.11047.499da3c60002491a00002b2722193100029b0a02d2089b9a019c04040a0dbf970b020e049...@att.net > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/grassroots/attachments/20090219/3eaa9375/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:39:10 +0100 > From: [email protected] > Subject: [Grassroots-l] The Information Train > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi all, > > For your information, a video with 2 computers (1 XO and a "normal" laptop) > exchanging real world information provided by a train with the help of > sensors > and actuators. > > "The Information Train" > > "This movie shows the main elements of a winning entry at the "Wizards of > Science 2009" scientific experiment contest. The entry demonstrates how > computers communicate with each other by setting up a network in which a > model > train transfers a picture's pixels from one computer to the other." > > Vid?o : > > * http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/the-information-train/14494555 > * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXg12lGBzjQ > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Grassroots mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/grassroots > > > End of Grassroots Digest, Vol 19, Issue 14 > ****************************************** > -- Thank you for not thinking www.atlantisring.com Better to rise than to fall in love.
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