Anand wrote:
Anand>>Does anybody agree that we need MBA's
Anand>>or atleast learned ppl incharge of tis country rather than
rowdies, and
Anand>>dons???

Anivar> I dont agree. I am not believing in a Management approch to the
Anivar> country. I am believing in the democracy which coming from the
root to
Anivar> upward and decision making power given to the common people.


Dear Anand,

I agree with u that current political system is corrupt. But I can't
agree with solution u r suggesting. Shooting polititions and giving
positions to MBA's will not solve the problem.

I am summarising u'r approch to the problem

1. The current Political system is corrupt.
2."We are too busy to care"
3. u r analysing politics as a job position to protect people's interest
and looking for qualifications
4. u'r mail is built on the belief of education and management degrees
will provide responsibility.
5. "So There should be some kind of qualification for the job"

Let me disjoint to u'r 2,3 &4 points which form the 5th point

who is deciding the the development projects for us? Why adivasi's and
dalis are always becomes the victims of development?. who is formulating
Govt policies which affect the livelihood of people. who is prioritising
corporates rather than people. Who is denying the communities right over
resources. we cant simply blame Politions only in these matter. These
are management policy decitions of the govt.

So I belive in the democracy & decision making power starting from
common people. Who is "too busy to care"? It is always the benificieries
& not affected people of this kind of development. the privilaged middle
and upper classes.

3. I am repeating my earlier question again. Politics not only means
party politics. on our each work, decision and activity are political.
So why we are giving politics completely to political parties?. The
party politics became a career now. let me think party politics as a job
(even i dont agree with that). Then fixing qualifications to it will
clearly restrict the marginalised people from coming into decision
making. This type of decision not considering the existing social
realities and Gender, cast & class discriminations which prevents access
to education.

4. This is a big question related to a lot of sectors.

My basic opposition to the management approch given by our education
institutions is it always support Top-down management and power
hierarchies. In Bottom-up management theories it is only giving a
feeling of decision makers on bottom level and all power still remails
on the Top level.

The second qn is abt Education. Is Education will provide Responsibility?
It is a big debate

I am asking If yes, responsibility to whom?

let me figure some examples:

a) A Bitter Pill to Swallow: On 26th December 2004(on the night of
Tsunami), the president of India Promulgated the Patents (3rd Amendment)
act without any debate, introducing Product Patent for the
Pharmaceutical sector This reversed 35 years of India’s Public health
Policy A policy that did not allow product patents and instead promoted
India’s Generic Pharmaceutical sector. Later it was passed as a bill in
parliment in March 2005

Till 2000, Antiretroviral (ARV) drugs were not accessible to the vast
majority of people living with HIV/AIDS (PLHA) because of the high
price.  MNC’s priced ARV drugs between US$12-13,000 annually per person.
>From 2000 the prices started falling after manufacturers from India
introduced generic versions of ARV drugs. These generic drugs are
currently provided to patients for as low as US$ 140 annually per
person. This was possible because of the absence of a product patent
regime in India.

It is created by our Well educated Experts. R they responsible 2 people
or WTO

b) The Kerala HC verdict on Plachimada case:  Kerala highcourt allowed
coca cola palnt to extract 5 lack litres of water per day in a recent
order. The local communities in plachimada are in struggle for last
three years against coca cola bottling plant against polluting and
destroying their water, farms and de-hydrating their livelihood. The
court order says that it is land owners right to extract ground water.
The basic qn remains here as Court is proritising local communities
right over water for their survival or Companies profit motives?

And lot and lots of examples are happening in every day

The Current educational system never creates responsibilities. the
Responsibilities will rise only from starting from the grassroot
democracy. The Power distribution of Management model never allow this.

So In short Qualifications will not provide responsibility. And
corruption of polititions is not the one and only problem for the
failure of the state and The qualifications will not solve this problem

Hope we can continue this discussion

peace &justice
Anivar Aravind


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