well.. am not a big fan of manorama by any means.. but am unable to understand some things 1-> If there are other newspapers which deliver more relevant and important news, why do they not get the same kind of popularity that these guys get. I dont think masala would sell well in kerala much.. if a newspaper gets good popularity, its probably because they address social issues well. 2-> There has been a lot of criticism about some article in manorama, if i remember correctly, the women harrassment issue (i guess it was in this forum). why does manorama receive much more attention even in these circles which kinda try to brand themselves as manorama haters? Is it because evry story brought out by other papers is good, clean and correct? 3-> If manorama has a bias, am sure that other papers have as much bias too. for instance, mathrubhumi gives a news about amritanandamayi whenever there is a small thing about her (and mathrubhumi is kinda considered leftist too!!!) and every kavalaprasangam by veerendrakumar is given huge coverage. Do you mean to say that non-manorama newspapers dont have a bias?
and fyi, alexa is considered as the last word in website reachability analysis and has been widely acknowledged thus. On 6/28/07, PJ Cherian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * "Of course, these are the times when success is measured by your > unscrupulousness. Surely, Manorama is a very successful organisation"* > ** > *Thank you Mr Narayanan for bringing out the unscrupless ways 'success' is > being achived and how we carelessly respond to this "whatever be the case > their reachability is steadily on the increase'!! * > ** > *The lettters reveal **how we become victims to the unscrpulousness of > dominent forces in public life and how we justify their deeds and thus help > corrupt the social conciousness. Manorama is engaged in this sort of sting > operation since a long time and today not just their readers but the whole > society of Kerala or the entire Mallus where ever they are, are the victims > of one or the other logics of Alexa.com <http://alexa.com/>. sort. > Manorama showed successfully that they can highjack a society through the > mind magement of a small group of ideologically sterile but intellegint > handfull of recruits. predecessors of Alexa logics invaded us mallus much > early than we think and now we are victim generation III and Alexa is Ana > vaayil ambazhanga. With cyber coming ....what a day and we are in the belly > of the beast!!. and hear the murmur ...."whatever be ....."* > *Keep them outside your gates. Donot touch them.* > *Our democracy, our Public sphere, our social mind, our intellluctul > life are likely to be better than what they are today. * > ** > ** > ** > ** > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* deepak p <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:52 PM > *Subject:* {greenyouth} Re: Fwd: About Manorama > > > whatever be the case, the reachability of manoramaonline has been steadily > increasing since 2007. > > see the attached graph from alexa. > > > On 6/27/07, sree rekha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Vijayan MJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Jun 27, 2007 4:44 PM > > Subject: About Manorama > > To: > > > > Forwarded message! FYI > > > > > > Dear Sir > > > > I hope you have seen the advertisement published in Manorama daily on > > 10.06.2007, claiming that Manorama online is the 4 th most popular > > online newspaper in the world, next only to The New York Times, The > > Washington Post and USA Today. I intend to present some related information > > that will help you to evaluate the veracity of their claim. > > > > Manorama site is in Malayalam and Malayalam is spoken by just about 3- > > crore people in a world population comprised of 600 crores. That is to say, > > Malayalam speaking people constitute just 0.005 percent of the world > > population. Moreover, if you consider the internet penetration among the > > Malayalees, the percentage will be less than 0.0005 even. If it's so, '*huh' > > *, a publication read by 0.0005% of people getting the fourth rank in > > the world in terms of popularity!! > > > > Also, there are languages with online newspapers, like Chinese, > > Japanese, Hindi etc in the world, spoken by people numbering say 50 crores > > or 150 crores. How is it that none of them are there even in the top 90 > > ranks as given in Alexa.com <http://alexa.com/> ? More than that, > > Manorama's claim will be true only if their online edition is read by > > Hindi/Chinese/Japanese people also! So it is just an absurd exaggeration > > intended to mislead the readers and advertisers. > > > > This ranking is not at all a credible, international ranking. Nor, it > > is an automatic ranking in which all news sites are included. > > > > Manorama of April 17th had published a page-one report with a claim > > that it is the 8 th most popular online newspaper in the world. Within a > > very short span of 55 days, the rank has jumped from 8 th to 4 th. At > > this rate Manorama is likely to become the world's MOST POPULAR online > > newspaper in another 55 days! > > > > That news report contained reference to the effect that alexa. Com is > > doing the ranking. Even presuming it is a credible institution, what is the > > basis of reporting that a language site with 0.005 % readers in the > > world can hold the fourth rank? Even if all the three crore Malayalees go > > online every day and read Manorama it is simply impossible get even the 100 > > th rank. > > > > As I was surprised by the unbelievable tall claim of Manorama, I had > > gone into the technical facts about it. I wrote to alexa. Com asking why > > another Indian online paper ie Eenadu of Andhra, which has a better > > alexa ranking than Manorama is not even seen in this ' popularity rank > > list' of newspaper sites were Manorama claims a fourth place. Alexa has > > given a clear answer and it nails the unprincipled, baseless boasting of > > Manorama. This ranking is done only among those sites that register > > themselves in a directory listed by the website http://www.dmoz.org . > > They call this the Open Directory Project. Any site can apply for inclusion > > in that directory but there is no guarantee that your site will be included. > > Their report followsÖ > > > > "*Ö. While the ODP is comprehensive in scope and coverage, we care a > > great deal about the quality of the ODP, and pride ourselves on being highly > > selective. We don't accept all sites, so please don't take it personally > > should your site not be accepted. Our goal is to make the directory as > > useful as possible for our users, **not to have the directory include > > all (or even most) of the sites that could possibly be listed* *or serve > > as a promotional tool for the entities listed. "* > > > > So, it is like this. You join a group where many has not joined, then > > rank yourself and claim that you are second or third in the whole > > population. This is a blatant deception which a respected news organisation > > should never do. > > > > Let me come to my last point. For newspapers, they have an official and > > authentic organisation called Audit Bureau of Circulation to certify > > circulation. There is no such thing in the cyber world. > > Alexa.com<http://alexa.com/> is > > a wing of a private commercial institution called Amazon which is engaged in > > e- marketing. Of course alexa. com has a system of evaluating the reach of > > websites. By electronic means it counts the number of times pages in a > > website is visited. This is not a fraud operation like what Manorama is > > doing but even this is not authentic. Statistics of hits- that is what a > > page visit is called in their language- is misleading. > > > > The sites with a lot of pages will be shown as having innumerable > > visitors, than those sites with less number of pages. To put it in simple > > terms, if ten thousand persons visit a site which has twenty channels, the > > hits will be, ten thousand into twenty, which makes 2 lakhs. But, if the > > same number of persons visit another site which has only 5 channels, their > > hits will only be 50000. So, it is clear that this is not a measurement of > > popularity, but is a measure that can be used to mislead potential > > advertisers. > > > > * Of course, these are the times when your success is measured by the > > unscrupulousness you can show in cheating your customers. Surely, Manorama > > is a very successful organisation. * > > > > Thank you,* please make sure that your colleagues too come to know > > about these things. * > > > > Regards > > > > L.Narayanan, Thrissur > > > > **** > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > Vijayan MJ > > > > > > > > "We hear that governance now will have a different cadence > > Tyranny will now be the protector; cities will be without walls or doors > > Innocence will now be a punishable crime > > Judges will profess ignorance of criminal deeds... > > Executioners will be in charge of funerals, killers will organize > > mourning... > > If this be the realization of India's ancient dreams > > Then soon, there will neither be India, nor any of its connoisseurs..." > > (By Ali Sardar Jafri) > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > -- Deepak P http://deepakp7.googlepages.com/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ greenyouth mailinglist is the activist support mailinglist for kerala To post to this group, send email to [email protected] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
