yea even the JNU born mukherjees and chatrjees etc claim unashamedly that 'there is no caste in Bengal' similar s the case with kerala (ref: Stalin's docu "India Untouched")
communistukalude daivam nammaleyokke (bengaliyadakkam) rakshichu adakkam cheyyatte.. amen!! On 6/20/08, Afthab Ellath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But all this time Bengal was Great.. Pre and Post Nandigram and Singur... > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 8:09 PM, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> >> >> On 6/19/08, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> child from Pakistan: Pakistan is great! >>> child from India: India is great!! >>> child from China: China is great!!! >>> >>> *child from "communist Kerala": China is great (?!)* >>> Dear Renju, >>> >> >> when did u leave Kerala? Late 60s or mid 70s. >> >> Child from Kerala says (period wise) >> >> 1980- 1989 - east germany, poland and soviet union is great >> 1990-2000 - (post tianmen) China & cuba is bountiful >> 2000-2006- Venezuela is as beautiful as allapuzha >> 2006-08- US without hyde act is the promised land >> >> We all belive that We r the end of life >> >>> so We are GREAT.. >>> >>> great!!!! >>> best >>> >>> >>> On 6/19/08, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> sending u a personal mail, >>>> I would like to believe I understand ascriptive politics... may be i am >>>> wrong >>>> but for me green youth seems more democratic than grey youth in terms of >>>> the discussion >>>> i like warriers challenging my notions, which are of course subjective >>>> from where i come from..... and i do not like to believe i am right... in >>>> the sense of a unversal truth that defines hegemony >>>> for me the personal is always political and have suffered thanks to that >>>> and in a masochistic sense, i enjoy that >>>> Best >>>> >>>> On 19/06/2008, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> "CONFESSED" and "ALLEGATIONS" >>>>> >>>>> just try to reverse it, then u will get the picture, dear ahmed. >>>>> and no offence intndd.... >>>>> >>>>> let the "piece--ful" co-existnce continue in the group >>>>> let new members join >>>>> let those who r afraid of long mails run away >>>>> let MODERATIONS continue as we all believe in law and order >>>>> >>>>> after all who s above the LAW !! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 6/19/08, ahmed rafeek j <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> hi bobby, >>>>>> nothing much...ranjuradha's introductory session to a new member to >>>>>> gy, bashing the whole group left n right with words like >>>>>> anti-modernist, romantic, green environmental..etc. >>>>>> though he confessed to afthab that there is no clear cut rules n >>>>>> regulations and he was not ready to substantiate his allegations on >>>>>> anivar's request, i didnt know until now that all these words were >>>>>> filthy!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> regards, >>>>>> ahmed rafeek j >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > excuse me, but I seem to hve missed something - is this a war on >>>>>> credibility >>>>>> > between green and grey youth, couched in the languages its couched >>>>>> in? >>>>>> > am i missing the trees for the woods? >>>>>> > can someone give me some picture please? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On 19/06/2008, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>> It will be good if you can point clear examples before this >>>>>> branding >>>>>> >> >>> effort >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> WE ARE ALIVE BECAUSE OF HISTORY >>>>>> >> WE ARE DEAD BECAUSE OF HISTORY >>>>>> >> SO BLAME IT and like T V Chandran, say "ormakalundayirikkanam"!! >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>> cant understand why Dalit/Muslim politics should be modernist, >>>>>> >> >>> anti-romantic and red (non-green) environmental ? >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> there s no specifc rules and regulations, as far as i know >>>>>> >> but...... this is a biggggg buuuuut hihi >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>it's funny to think that sending >>>>>> >> only a particular genre of mails will make you immune to any >>>>>> >> criticism. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> it s really funny. but that is how even our green secualrism >>>>>> flourishes. >>>>>> >> it s soooo funnnyyyyy..... >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> sorry for the disurbance (though DD era is almost over) >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> On 6/19/08, Afthab Ellath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Ranjith, >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> I cant understand why Dalit/Muslim politics should be modernist, >>>>>> >>> anti-romantic and red (non-green) environmental ? >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 11:36 AM, damodar prasad >>>>>> >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> On 6/19/08, ahmed rafeek j <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> hi, >>>>>> >>>>> anti-modernist = may be most of the discussions in this group >>>>>> are >>>>>> >>>>> tinted with postmodern vocabulary. >>>>>> >>>>> romantic = wish i cud see a single one in this group. >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> hahahah.. I enjoyed.. >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> green environmental = not a bad color. >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> if anybody make statistics of the mails in this group, >>>>>> dalit/muslim >>>>>> >>>>> related mails won't sure be less in volume. and those mails were >>>>>> not >>>>>> >>>>> only from 'branded fanatics' (who?). it's funny to think that >>>>>> sending >>>>>> >>>>> only a particular genre of mails will make you immune to any >>>>>> >>>>> criticism. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>>> >>>>> ahmed rajeek j >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ranju radha wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> > yea >>>>>> >>>>> > approval not required; but in order not to be moderated >>>>>> espesially if >>>>>> >>>>> > u >>>>>> >>>>> > r a Dalit or Muslim, be careful NOT TO BE ASSERTIVE, and >>>>>> always be >>>>>> >>>>> > "submissive" and utter "yes yes " to these anti-modernist >>>>>> romantic >>>>>> >>>>> > green >>>>>> >>>>> > environmental fanatic loooong mails... and if u send long >>>>>> mails on >>>>>> >>>>> > Dalit/minority issues, u may be branded "fanatically >>>>>> dalit/muslim" >>>>>> >>>>> > thus goes the green experience >>>>>> >>>>> > enjoy!! >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> It will be good if you can point clear examples before this >>>>>> branding >>>>>> >>>>> effort >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Anivar (as list admin) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> On 6/19/08, Subid K.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> > Moderators, please welcome this young friend and writer Asma >>>>>> >>>>> > Siddiquie from >>>>>> >>>>> > Pakistan, she would like to be part of Green Youth! >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > thanks. >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>> >>>>> > From: Asma Siddiquie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> >>>>> > Date: Jun 18, 2008 10:47 AM >>>>>> >>>>> > Subject: RE: [GreenYouth] a questionnaire from Pakistan (about >>>>>> >>>>> > plagiarism) >>>>>> >>>>> > To: "Subid K. S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > I became a member to the group but didnt get the approval. >>>>>> >>>>> > Thanks a lot Subid. >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > I cant do it on any software. Tried surveymonkey but it says >>>>>> to have >>>>>> >>>>> > ten >>>>>> >>>>> > questions only. >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > Thanks >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > Asma Siddiqui >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > ________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>> > Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:05:43 -0700 >>>>>> >>>>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>> > Subject: Fwd: [GreenYouth] a questionnaire from Pakistan >>>>>> (about >>>>>> >>>>> > plagiarism) >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > SEE. >>>>>> >>>>> > (r u in the group?!) >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>> >>>>> > From: bobinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> >>>>> > Date: Jun 18, 2008 4:54 AM >>>>>> >>>>> > Subject: Re: [GreenYouth] a questionnaire from Pakistan (about >>>>>> >>>>> > plagiarism) >>>>>> >>>>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > hey, >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > It could have been better if it was done through an online >>>>>> survey >>>>>> >>>>> > website. I >>>>>> >>>>> > am finding it dificult to fill and send it. If you can put the >>>>>> survey >>>>>> >>>>> > into >>>>>> >>>>> > an online site, I can get to you atleast 5 inputs. (mainly >>>>>> from >>>>>> >>>>> > people who >>>>>> >>>>> > suffered plagiarism.) I am bored of people stealing my photos >>>>>> and >>>>>> >>>>> > right now >>>>>> >>>>> > I have written a blog entry. >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > you can see the blog entry here >>>>>> >>>>> > http://www.freebird.in/wp/?p=130 >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > Please let me know if its possible to put the questionire in a >>>>>> online >>>>>> >>>>> > survey >>>>>> >>>>> > site. Else i will send an openoffice document. >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > Thanks and regards, >>>>>> >>>>> > Bobinson >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 7:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > This is a mail from my friend Asma Siddiqui from Pakistan. She >>>>>> is >>>>>> >>>>> > doing a survey regarding plagiarism and other crimes. It is a >>>>>> >>>>> > comparative study of media ethics. >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > Below is a questionnaire. Please fill it up. It would require >>>>>> ten to >>>>>> >>>>> > fifteen minutes of your precious time. I am collecting >>>>>> information >>>>>> >>>>> > and >>>>>> >>>>> > data on this topic to understand the issue and to help victims >>>>>> avail >>>>>> >>>>> > justice. Your information and views would help curb plagiarism >>>>>> in >>>>>> >>>>> > Pakistan and in other countries. >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > Note: Please highlight the options that you want to mark in >>>>>> red text >>>>>> >>>>> > colour. Also give all your answers and opinions in red text >>>>>> colour. >>>>>> >>>>> > After you are done, copy paste it on Microsoft word and kindly >>>>>> >>>>> > forward >>>>>> >>>>> > me the mail. >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > Thanks >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > Best regards, >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > Questionnaire >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > Name: >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > Institution/organization/profession: >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > Email address: >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > 1. Is there any course of media ethics and laws taught at >>>>>> >>>>> > universities/media institutions in your country? If yes, >>>>>> please >>>>>> >>>>> > mention the name of the institution. >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > a) Yes >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > b) No >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > 2. What are the illegal practices rampant in your >>>>>> country's >>>>>> >>>>> > media >>>>>> >>>>> > organizations? You can check more than one option. >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > a) Sensationalism >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > b) Plagiarism >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > c) Wrong reporting >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > d) False news >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > e) Defamation >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > f) Biased news >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > g) Non-payment to writers >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > h) All of the above >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > 3. Do you know of any law against plagiarism in your >>>>>> country? >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > a) Yes (Please state the law) >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > b) No >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > 4. Have you ever been a victim of plagiarism? >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > a) Yes >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > b) No >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > 5. Have you ever witnessed an act of plagiarism? >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > a) Yes >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > b) No >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > 6. How can plagiarism be condemned? (you can check more >>>>>> than one >>>>>> >>>>> > options) >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > a) By publication of an errata >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > b) Sacking the person responsible of plagiarism >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > c) Issuance of warning letter >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > d) Penalty on the criminal >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > e) If any other, please describe. >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > 7. How can plagiarism be prevented? (you can check more >>>>>> than one >>>>>> >>>>> > options) >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > a) Strict internal policies regarding plagiarism >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > b) A check on plagiarism by an independent organization >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > c) A strict law enforced against plagiarism >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > d) By imposing a ban on the one who does it >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > e) All of the above >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > f) If any other apart from the above options, please >>>>>> state >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > 8. Is there any organization that keeps a check on >>>>>> plagiarism >>>>>> >>>>> > and >>>>>> >>>>> > other crimes in your country? >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > a) Yes >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > b) No >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > 9. Do you think there is a need for an >>>>>> organization/group/ >>>>>> >>>>> > association to keep a check on plagiarism in your country? >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > a) Yes >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > b) No >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > 10. What in your opinion should the organization focus on >>>>>> other than >>>>>> >>>>> > plagiarism? (you can check more than one options) >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > a) Defamation >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > b) Non payment to writers >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > c) False news >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > d) If any other, please mention >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > What issues should the organization/group/association address >>>>>> apart >>>>>> >>>>> > from media crimes? >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > a) a guide for writers >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > b) a trainer for young aspiring writers >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > c) Work towards promoting writers and their work >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > d) Improving journalism/media standards in Pakistan >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > e) Work towards protecting writers' rights >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > f) All of the above >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > g) If any other apart from the above, please mention >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > 11. Would you like to join a group which is working for the >>>>>> >>>>> > implementation of journalistic and media ethics? Give reasons. >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > a) Yes >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > b) No >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > 12. What else, in your view, should be done about the illegal >>>>>> >>>>> > practices if present in media? Please state your opinion >>>>>> below. >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > -- >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> THANKS & REGARDS >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > http://www.freewebs.com/subidks/ >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > Darkness is equally beautiful. Go beyond languages. Help >>>>>> yourself >>>>>> >>>>> > serve you >>>>>> >>>>> > better. >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > Deny food and sex to undeserved. >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > Listen Your Self. >>>>>> >>>>> > ________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>> > Discover the new Windows Vista Learn more! >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > -- >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> THANKS & REGARDS >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > http://www.freewebs.com/subidks/ >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > Darkness is equally beautiful. Go beyond languages. Help >>>>>> yourself >>>>>> >>>>> > serve you >>>>>> >>>>> > better. >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > Deny food and sex to undeserved. >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> > Listen Your Self. >>>>>> >>>>> > > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > > > -- > Regards > > Afthab Ellath --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
