Posted By IANS On June 19, 2008 (12:01 pm) In Uncategorized
By Prabhat Sharan

Mumbai, June 19 (IANS) For centuries they have been feared, despised and 
envied. Gypsies, an ethnic minority in Europe, continue to face discrimination 
that is not very different from what India’s Dalits have to contend with. A 
team of officials from Hungary, which has a high population of itinerant 
gypsies, was here to study the work being done to improve the lives of Dalits 
and to take some lessons back home.
“Gypsies were looked upon as strange people when they were nomads, and that 
was 200 years ago. The alienation continues,� said Timea Borovzsky, chief of 
the Directorate General for Equal Opportunities (DGEO) of the Hungarian 
Ministry of Education and Culture.
“It is like the caste discrimination against Dalits in India,� Borovzsky 
told IANS. 

She along with two other members from the DGEO this month extensively toured 
the dry rocky interiors of the Vidarbha region in northeastern Maharashtra.

During their quiet visit, they studied how Dalits live in huts lit by hurricane 
lamps and cope with caste prejudices.

“We wanted to personally see the kind of projects that have been implemented 
in India to help Dalits come up,� said DGEO deputy director general Gabor 
Sarkozi.

“In Europe, there are 15 million gypsies and in Hungary, the population 
ranges somewhere between 600,000 and 700,000. They are the biggest ethnic 
minority and the most slurred community.�

Suri Szilivia, a researcher and interpreter with DGEO, said, “Gypsies or 
Cigan as they are called in Hungary have a thousand-year- old connection with 
India. The semantics of their language is similar to Sanskrit.

“But more than this, Indian social reformer Babasaheb Ambedkar is a revered 
figure to them as well as to us researchers in Hungary.�

Szilivia said, “In any public place, most majority ethnic community members 
would just sidle away rather than be seen with a Cigan. The Romas are 
reluctantly served in hotels or given respectable jobs. Even the tone towards 
them has a derogatory tint.�

Sarkozi pointed out that in Hungary, “gypsies (a political incorrect word) or 
Roma or Cigan are forced to live with mythical social stereotypes…like the 
way you (India) have the so-called criminal tribes.

“They are brown-skinned and they have the highest school drop-out rates. They 
are looked down upon and people shun them. They live in ghettoes, though these 
slums are not as bad as we saw in villages near Nagpur.�

The Hungarian government has for the past few years been trying to uplift this 
community which, “at present has the highest unemployment rate and gets 
seasonal employment at construction sites or as daily wage farm labour�.

According to Borovszky, “One of the reasons we selected India was precisely 
because the nature of discrimination is so similar between them and the Dalits.

“We found several projects extremely interesting, innovative and socially 
relevant for bringing a change in any depressed or marginalized community.�

Sarkozi said that the discrimination has become more overt in the last 20 
years. “Earlier during the communist regime it was never there. But now 
parallel structures of discrimination have come up. We want them to be absorbed 
in mainstream society and to be treated equally.�
So what about reservations for this community in institutions?

“Though we do not have any such policies, a similar project was introduced 
earlier but it was not successful. In the last 20 years, several groups like 
Neo-Nazis and Skinheads have come up. So far they have not become violent but 
they are extremely virulent about such policies,� Sarkozi said.

Talking about the projects that the study group intends to introduce in Hungary 
for gypsies, Szilivia said, “We intend to implement the book bank project and 
moreover introduce workshops for teachers so that they learn to empathise with 
these marginalized people.

“In our tour, we found Ambedkarites and NGOs working with Dalits having 
empathy coupled with irrepressible zest. This is one thing we want to infuse 
among teachers working in schools meant for gypsies.�




      
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Posted By IANS On June 19, 2008 (12:01 pm) In Uncategorized
By Prabhat Sharan

Mumbai, June 19 (IANS) For centuries they have been feared, despised and 
envied. Gypsies, an ethnic minority in Europe, continue to face discrimination 
that is not very different from what India’s Dalits have to contend with. A 
team of officials from Hungary, which has a high population of itinerant 
gypsies, was here to study the work being done to improve the lives of Dalits 
and to take some lessons back home.
“Gypsies were looked upon as strange people when they were nomads, and that 
was 200 years ago. The alienation continues,� said Timea Borovzsky, chief of 
the Directorate General for Equal Opportunities (DGEO) of the Hungarian 
Ministry of Education and Culture.
“It is like the caste discrimination against Dalits in India,â€? Borovzsky 
told IANS. 

She along with two other members from the DGEO this month extensively toured 
the dry rocky interiors of the Vidarbha region in northeastern Maharashtra.

During their quiet visit, they studied how Dalits live in huts lit by hurricane 
lamps and cope with caste prejudices.

“We wanted to personally see the kind of projects that have been implemented 
in India to help Dalits come up,� said DGEO deputy director general Gabor 
Sarkozi.

“In Europe, there are 15 million gypsies and in Hungary, the population 
ranges somewhere between 600,000 and 700,000. They are the biggest ethnic 
minority and the most slurred community.�

Suri Szilivia, a researcher and interpreter with DGEO, said, “Gypsies or 
Cigan as they are called in Hungary have a thousand-year- old connection with 
India. The semantics of their language is similar to Sanskrit.

“But more than this, Indian social reformer Babasaheb Ambedkar is a revered 
figure to them as well as to us researchers in Hungary.�

Szilivia said, “In any public place, most majority ethnic community members 
would just sidle away rather than be seen with a Cigan. The Romas are 
reluctantly served in hotels or given respectable jobs. Even the tone towards 
them has a derogatory tint.�

Sarkozi pointed out that in Hungary, “gypsies (a political incorrect word) or 
Roma or Cigan are forced to live with mythical social stereotypes…like the 
way you (India) have the so-called criminal tribes.

“They are brown-skinned and they have the highest school drop-out rates. They 
are looked down upon and people shun them. They live in ghettoes, though these 
slums are not as bad as we saw in villages near Nagpur.�

The Hungarian government has for the past few years been trying to uplift this 
community which, “at present has the highest unemployment rate and gets 
seasonal employment at construction sites or as daily wage farm labour�.

According to Borovszky, “One of the reasons we selected India was precisely 
because the nature of discrimination is so similar between them and the Dalits.

“We found several projects extremely interesting, innovative and socially 
relevant for bringing a change in any depressed or marginalized community.�

Sarkozi said that the discrimination has become more overt in the last 20 
years. “Earlier during the communist regime it was never there. But now 
parallel structures of discrimination have come up. We want them to be absorbed 
in mainstream society and to be treated equally.�
So what about reservations for this community in institutions?

“Though we do not have any such policies, a similar project was introduced 
earlier but it was not successful. In the last 20 years, several groups like 
Neo-Nazis and Skinheads have come up. So far they have not become violent but 
they are extremely virulent about such policies,� Sarkozi said.

Talking about the projects that the study group intends to introduce in Hungary 
for gypsies, Szilivia said, “We intend to implement the book bank project and 
moreover introduce workshops for teachers so that they learn to empathise with 
these marginalized people.

“In our tour, we found Ambedkarites and NGOs working with Dalits having 
empathy coupled with irrepressible zest. This is one thing we want to infuse 
among teachers working in schools meant for gypsies.�

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