Dear Venu Just to add on, I do not think any discourse on exclusion or marginalisation would be possible unless we take different categories of ascriptive disabilties as a whole. Manuvad is as much about caste as it is about a caste based patriarchy and in that sense universality of human rights would be rubbished by any ideology based on hegemonies and Manuvad is one of the best examples of such an ideology. As an example let us look at the notion of purity and physical disability within the varnashrama dharma or sexuality. I really am at a loss to understand how these discourses can be read separately - maybe it feeds into the hegemonising forces for us to read these separately In solidarity
On 19/07/2008, venukm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Manuvad is a not only a real threat to this country, but it is also > 'the' real threat! > That its its proliferation as a binding ideology is not confined > within the walls of IITs or elite Brahmins/UC premises makes the > challenge far more difficult. > Take, for example the way the universality of human rights and the > politics of gender are being rubbished as outlandish and as anathema > to our culture! Let's remember that the dictum of Manu prevails as > much among dalit-bahujan masses as among the UCs, esp when it comes to > the question of conceding to women a little more freedom let alone > recognizing their status as persons, with rights to citizenship vis a > vis,as wives,mothers,safe custodians of honour, objects of desire and > what not.. > When one speaks of caste, gender is kept at some distance and when you > speak about gender, caste is kept off. > Though I'm aware of the slightly mismatching content of this post > under the present subject line, these words come to me s instantaneous > as in a knee jerk response. > No doubt,Manuvad is primarily about caste; > but Manuvad is also not without a gender component that is deep- > seatedly embedded along with the very structure of caste. > Best, > Venu. > > > On 18 Jul, 08:29, "ranju radha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Indireshan, the former director of IIT Madras has been constantly > engaging > > in such brahmanic war against Dalits/adivasis/bahujans. I read a piece > > wrotten by him in New Indian Express years back (in the context of OBC > > reservation) where he brings the "real" cultivators v/s parasite idea. > for > > him the true cultivators are brahmins and the parasites the dalitbahujan. > > what a paradox. > > pity for poor manu and his fellow brahmin bujis who inventd graded caste > > inequalities > > > > and wht abt those who are graded as "karshakathozhilalis" by our great > > manuvadi CPI (M) marxists > > > > no wonder the world/word has lost its "meaning" when Indireshan's and > > Youth 4 Equalities start taklng abt it; or is it the other way around. > seems > > so especially looking at the kind of responce it receives from media and > > "upper" caste world. > > > > mile to go ... > > > > On 7/18/08, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > What is shocking to me is despite all claims of meritoriousness etc. > the > > > absolute lack of the basic skills needed to be heads of institutions, > or > > > even administrators - displayed by this evident lack of sensitivity - > in > > > this example retrogade views on caste as well HIV +ve people. Its time > > > drastic action is contemplated like law suits on grounds of > discrimination. > > > This is not only the story of IITs but all the elite institutions in > the > > > country, be it IIMs, AIIMS, NLS - the story remains the same > > > > > On 18/07/2008, Ranjit Ranjit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> Few days back Manuwadi director (former) of IIT Madras made a comment > "'HRD > > >> minister has injected AIDS into IITs" (Please visit this link for news > > >> > http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Mumbai/HRD_minister_has_injected_A...) > > > > >> -- > > >> Ranjit >> > > > > > > > -- Bobby Kunhu http://community.eldis.org/myshkin/Blog/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
