Dear Salim,

On 8/19/08, salimtk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > deshabimani's shamefull 3rd rate mimicry is violent and painful.  they
> insult the struggle. they insult > our feelings, togetherness and frienship.
>
>

The Desabhimani's allegations are really painful. I was not arguing to
accept that. Tolerance does not mean to nod your head and surrender to
insults. The non-violent approach is to uplift the discussion to a dignified
level. It is also making them aware we are not similar but different.



>
> > please do not expect gandhian 'decency' in our responses to it.
>

There is nothing like Gandhian decency. But only decency. We should say we
believe in peace and democracy. Gandhi's approach to colonialists violent
provocations is still memorable and significant.

*Sudheer.M *







>
> On 8/19/08, sudheer mannoth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Aftab Ellath,
>> An eye for eye makes the whole world blind. Let the Green Youth people
>> desist from using such harsh language. Every one should feel comfortable to
>> come and discuss here.
>>
>> *Sudheer.M *
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Afthab Ellath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>
>>>  Why doesnt that shameless knucklehead shathamanyu hiding behind some
>>> other masks in Green Youth come here and defend his/their racist sexist shit
>>> in desabhimani? Or is he continue eating the bollywood actresses' shit and
>>> enjoying his erection here?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Afthab Ellath
>>>
>>>
>>>   On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:18 AM, ahmed rafeek j <
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> *Here is the Dileep Raj's Mail that Sathamanyu has quoted:
>>>> *
>>>> *Friends,*
>>>> * *
>>>> *Had a conversation with Rekha Raj today.*
>>>> *The situation in Chengara is really shocking, she says.*
>>>> *She was almost crying ...*
>>>> * *
>>>> *Every other woman is being molested *
>>>> *on a daily basis.*
>>>> *extream starvation prevails for dyas..*
>>>> *It is days since children had any food..*
>>>> * *
>>>> *On day after tomorrow, a contingent will be trying to break the
>>>> blockade *
>>>> *with food and medical assistance.*
>>>> * *
>>>> *It is not sure whether children could survive till then..*
>>>> * *
>>>> *Do join the contingent on 14th. We have to break this *
>>>> *blockade.*
>>>> * *
>>>> *Do contribute money now..*
>>>> *We shouldn't allow fascists to starve agitators to death..*
>>>> * *
>>>> *Act now..nothing is happening if we are not acting now...
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>> * 1. Sathmanyu himself or Sathmanyu's clone is sitting silently in this
>>>> group reading everything posted here. Is it not a recogonition for Green
>>>> Youth initiative?
>>>> 2. In this "unregulated" (sathamanyu's criticism of net)  domain, why
>>>> can't Sathamanayu or his clone come and interact in the most harshest of
>>>> words? or allow the memembers of Green Youth a space in "regulated"
>>>> Desabhimani?
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> $ Shame on you Dileep Raj, you could only collect 36,000/ rupees.
>>>> According to Current full ruppee capital convertabilty standards of
>>>> Deshabhimani, this amount will depreciate the market value of all
>>>> "revolutionary" initiatives. The standard 2 years before was 2 crores. Is
>>>> this way to collect money?  Transparency is ugly. Make it a bond or fixed
>>>> deposit in a Swiss bank. And lie three times. You will be made the Dy. Gen.
>>>> Manager, Gen. Manager or at least Sathamanayu.
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> ! Social Theorist say one of the last mass movements led by the
>>>> mainstream left is the "MichaBhoomi" samaram. I like to ammend the
>>>> statement. The most well-documented and the Marxist literature profusely
>>>> produced on any smaram after Michabhoomi is the "night vigil". There should
>>>> be something striking in the night vigil and is the object of desire for 
>>>> the
>>>> Marxist party. The Night Vigil participants should have a gratitude to the
>>>> Marxist propoganda establishments for documenting and publicizing it.
>>>> Looking after 20 years retrospectively, researcher would think that the
>>>> Night Vigil was the most succesful of political movements in the early 21st
>>>> century. Lucky guys!
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *
>>>> *@ Sathmanyu's knowledge of internet is very poor. The Desabhimani has
>>>> an online edition and many of the CPM publications are also online and as
>>>> Damodar Prasad said the internet more than anyone has been used by the Left
>>>> globally. I think some one should tutor him with lessons on internet
>>>> communication. Sathamanyu sir, that was a poor joke.
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> + The language of Sathamanyu is full of sexist ebullience. AIDWA
>>>> memebers enjoying Sathamanyu?. His pen derives pleasures of phallic 
>>>> fantasy.
>>>> I am avoiding all reference except one on Bollywood actresses. It is not
>>>> only Sathmanyu to be blamed but he is writing because he has a readership.
>>>> Combined phallic entertainment pleasures accumulates to Phallocratic media.
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> ? Who is this any Bhaskaran? Let me speculate that it is BRP Bhaskar.
>>>> Many devious strategies have been used by the Desabhimani to silence BRP
>>>> Bhaskar. For Sathamanyu sychophancy is not an exception of the charachter
>>>> but a norm to be followed by anyone. He cannot even visualize alternative 
>>>> to
>>>> this psycological state. The same BRP years before had the courage to quit
>>>> the Hindu even as he sacrificed his own career. That is the Bhaskaran the
>>>> Keralites know. And Sathamanyu? He must have probably made his colleauges 
>>>> to
>>>> sacrifice their careers for him to go up of this phallocracy.
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> # In the heights of factional warfare, CPM leaders, cultural activists
>>>> and party intellectuals and their realtions were portrayed in an ugly 
>>>> manner
>>>> and also tarnished personally by the yellow as well as very Red magazines.
>>>> You will not see the bloggies and Green youth memebers writing or
>>>> circulating or publishing or even funding such publications. Sathamanyu can
>>>> himself see such Red publications  to know who all wrote and what were
>>>> written and how they endorsed.
>>>>
>>>> So that CPM leaders, if not Sathmanyu can expect minimum deceny from the
>>>> bloggers and e-group discussants
>>>> Charachter assasination is a method people like you employ even for
>>>> personal gains. Not the 'bloggies"!!!
>>>>
>>>> The writing of Sathamanyu  is a warning to his own comrades than anyone.
>>>> No body knows when this ire would turn to his own establishment for reasons
>>>> personal and political.
>>>>
>>>> __________________________________________________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> Anyway you can expect more publicity from Sathamanyus and his clones
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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