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On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Afthab Ellath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Damodar, it was a multi-paged article and you missed part of it...
>
>
> =====
>
> For years the overtly Islamic and violent aspect of the insurgency in the
> Valley kept many secular Indian liberals from visibly sympathising with the
> plight of Kashmiri Muslims: if only the Kashmiris, I often heard, had
> organised a Gandhian-style political campaign.In recent weeks the Kashmiris
> have repeatedly staged massive non-violent protests, provoking such
> establishment figures as Vir Sanghvi and Swaminathan A. Aiyar into an
> exasperated reckoning of Kashmir's cost to India. But Arundhati Roy's frank
> analysis of the collapse of Indian legitimacy in the Valley is still rare
> enough to profoundly unsettle many liberal assumptions.
>
> The commonest secularist response consists of fierce denial and bluster.
> Kanti Bajpai avers that since the Indian state has not committed genocide in
> Kashmir, the Kashmiri demand for freedom is groundless—surely by this
> legalistic logic Gandhi and Nehru had no right to ask the British to quit
> India? G. Parthasarathy at least has the hawkish virtue of clarity when he
> implores India to follow Russia's example in Chechnya and strike Kashmir
> with an 'iron fist'.
>
> What's much more disturbing, however, is when Harish Khare of *The 
> Hindu*accuses separatists and the isi of stirring up trouble in the Valley and
> urges the government to use force to underscore "New Delhi's will and
> capacity to stay put in Kashmir". Ritually denouncing the BJP, Khare also
> exhorts us to a "renewed fundamentalist faith in the idea of secular India".
>
>
> Indeed, more than one liberal commentator reacting to the mass upsurge in
> Kashmir piously invoked the 'idea of India'. This solemn liturgy makes it
> seem that the 'idea of India', like the 'American dream', is divinely
> ordained to bring happiness to anyone who subscribes to it, as though
> electoral democracy in a poor, multicultural country isn't an ongoing
> experiment, one of the most utopian and arduous in modern history, and as
> such subject to rigorous scrutiny and pragmatic revision—an experiment that
> is, harsh though this may sound, prone to periodic malfunction, even
> failure.
>
> The Indian liberal's perennial defensiveness on the question of Indian
> Muslims has trapped him into a rigid fealty to the 'idea of India'—or what
> is really an exaggerated faith in the Indian state's ability to maintain
> India's secular identity in Kashmir. It is true that the original conception
> of the Indian state contained many redemptive notions of cultural plurality,
> and social and economic justice. But whatever prelapsarian integrity the
> Indian state under Nehru may have had (Kashmiris have their own views on
> this), it now appears to have been deeply compromised; and *if our
> secularist narcissism managed to survive two state-supported pogroms in 1984
> and 2002, one of them by an avowedly secular political party, it is likely
> to be shattered by the enthronement of Narendra Modi as India's prime
> minister. *
>
> During two decades of vicious anti-Muslim campaigns and terrorist
> retaliation, the Sangh parivar has not only given Indian nationalism a hard
> majoritarian cast; it has also infected India's state and civil society with
> its illiberalism. Certainly, Kashmiri Muslims, who feel assaulted with an
> iron fist by both Hindutva-wadis and secularists, cannot be blamed for
> failing to spot the fine distinctions between the idea of India and the idea
> of Akhand Bharat.
>
> The Kashmiris are hardly alone in failing to detect wisdom and generosity
> in a state that detains and tortures Muslims on the flimsiest of charges,
> ignores the killing of Christians, organises mercenary armies against
> tribals and Maoists, and helps big businessmen to fleece small farmers and
> uproot the landless.
>
> Secular fundamentalists may continue to venerate the state, hoping, against
> all available evidence, that it would preserve the idea of secular India in
> Kashmir (and the Northeast, another region where faith in the idea of India
> needs to be propped up by the Indian state's brutality). But in their
> revulsion from the inevitably 'communal' politics of Kashmiri Muslims they
> will find themselves standing with the most virulent Islamophobes among
> Hindu fundamentalists.
>
> This proximity can't be written off as an unfortunate accident of history.
> *Fundamentalism in the cause of secular ideals has proved even more
> noxious than its religious counterpart, as the 20th century's extraordinary
> ideological violence reminds us.* *The secular fundamentalists, who are
> determined to nail their cherished 'idea of India' into Kashmiri hearts and
> minds, seem to forget the many political leaders and intellectuals who
> rationalised totalitarian brutality and imperialist wars by pointing to the
> garishly virtuous nature of their secular ideologies (nation-building,
> economic prosperity, freedom, democracy). The spectacle of American liberal
> intellectuals cheerleading the war for 'human rights' in Iraq has more
> recently underscored the grotesque irony of what Albert Camus called
> 'massacres justified by philanthropy'. *
>
> Camus knew that a secular ideology of progress, which tries to validate
> state violence by positing noble-sounding but purely abstract ends, had
> replaced traditional religion in the world-conquering nations of the West,
> one which, as he wrote, 'can be used for anything, even for transforming
> murderers into judges'.
>
> Having arrived late in the history of the nation-state, we are probably
> fated to replicate some of the West's ideology-fuelled disasters. The
> fundamentalist cult of the 'idea of India' has already demonstrated its
> murderous potential in Kashmir. Is it too late to unshackle the 'idea of
> India' from a repressive Indian state and its callous elite? This is
> certainly necessary—for the sake of democracy and pluralism in India as well
> as in Kashmir. Such revisions in the political and moral imagining of
> nations are never easy. But until they are made, the 'idea of India' will
> increasingly risk becoming yet another one of recent history's many
> beautiful abstractions stained with blood.
>
> =====
> Regards
> Afthab Ellath
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:15 PM, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Dear Aftab,
>>
>> Did you see this outlook article by Pankaj Mishra *India: A Massacre
>> Justified By Philanthropy?
>>
>> http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20081006&fname=Cover+Story&sid=3
>>
>> since it is "pankaj mishra" , his credentials will ever be questioned?!!!
>> we should be grateful to people like Pankaj Mishra.
>>
>> *
>>
>> For decades now, Kashmir has hosted a bloody stalemate, in which a
>> powerful nation-state repeatedly tries, and fails, to impose its will on a
>> small unyielding population. The Indian state uses political means
>> (elections, special privileges) and financial inducements as well as
>> military force to convince Kashmiris that they should not dream of
>> self-determination. Still, Kashmiri defiance and harsh Indian retaliation
>> exact a terrible human toll: tens of thousands killed, innumerable many
>> disabled, tortured, orphaned and widowed. There is hardly a family in the
>> Valley left untouched by the biggest military occupation in the world.
>>
>> People in mass democracies are usually slow to recognise the nature of the
>> undeclared wars conducted by their representatives. But by the late 1960s
>> there was hardly a public figure in the United States—from J.K. Galbraith to
>> Philip Roth—who did not feel compelled to build up a chorus of denunciation
>> against their country's deeply dishonourable involvement in Indochina. In
>> comparison, the deaths, in less than two decades, of nearly 80,000 people in
>> Kashmir have barely registered in the Indian liberal conscience.
>>
>> "I cannot imagine," Pratap Bhanu Mehta wrote last month, "what it is to
>> live like under half a million troops." Until very recently, such honest
>> confessions of a moral impasse were rare not only in an increasingly
>> corporatised media, which is as defiantly ignorant as it is nationalistic,
>> but also among the people most likely to initiate national introspection on
>> Kashmir—the impressively numerous writers and intellectuals who by training
>> and temperament are secular and liberal.
>>
>> A few Indian commentators did deplore, consistently and eloquently,
>> India's record of rigged elections and atrocity in the Valley, even if they
>> spoke mainly in terms of defusing rather than heeding Kashmiri aspirations.
>> But many more tended to become nervous at the mention of disaffection in the
>> Kashmir Valley. "I am not taking up that thorny question here," Amartya Sen
>> writes in a footnote devoted to Kashmir in *The Argumentative Indian*. In
>> the more resonant context of a book titled *Identity and Violence*, Sen
>> yet again relegates the subject to a footnote.
>>
>> It is not easy for me to point to these acts of omission. Most Indian
>> liberals have fought with admirable courage the good and necessary war to
>> prevent Hindutva from damaging India's multicultural ethos, and their
>> commitment to justice for the poor and defenceless in Indian society cannot
>> be faulted. They are right to suspect Pakistan of malicious intent in the
>> Valley, and to fear that the four million Kashmiri Muslims demanding azadi
>> expose 150 million Indian Muslims even further to the BJP-VHP's bigotry.
>>
>> But it makes progressively less sense why many Indian liberals should not
>> make nuanced distinctions between Kashmiri and Indian Muslims; why they
>> should help the fanatics of Hindutva hold Indian Muslims hostage by refusing
>> to publicly uphold Kashmiri rights to a life of dignity.
>>
>> A commonplace secular-nationalist argument is that Kashmiri Muslims, if
>> given the slightest concessions by India, would go radically Islamist or
>> embrace Pakistan, emboldening separatists in the Northeast. But it has never
>> been clear that radical Islam has a sustainable appeal in Kashmir. The
>> Kashmiri feeling for Pakistan, too, is highly capricious, almost entirely
>> fuelled by hatred of the Indian military occupation.
>> For years the overtly Islamic and violent aspect of the insurgency in the
>> Valley kept many secular Indian liberals from visibly sympathising with the
>> plight of Kashmiri Muslims: if only the Kashmiris, I often heard, had
>> organised a Gandhian-style political campaign.
>>
>> PS: I did not copy the image along with the text. its very evocative :-)
>> See how "asoka sthabam" is transformed!!- damodr prasad
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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