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On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Ramanan KP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brahmins are making alliance with dalits in UP and Gujarath. They have no > time for terrorism, sir. > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:47 PM, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> yea true >> brahmanical terrorism will be a better term!! >> >> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 1:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >>> The Rediff Interview/Abhay Vartak, Sanatan Sanstha spokesperson >>> >>> >>> 'There is no such thing as Hindu terrorism' >>> http://in.rediff.com/news/2008/oct/27inter.htm >>> October 27, 2008 >>> >>> If the Mumbai Anti Terrorist Squad is to be believed, then the Hindu >>> activists arrested in Indore were responsible for the bomb blast at >>> Malegaon in September, which killed six people, to avenge the various >>> acts of terror carried out in the country. >>> >>> The operation undertaken by the Mumbai cops has put several Hindu >>> groups under the scanner. The Maharashtra government has called for a >>> ban on some Hindu groups which includes the Sanatan Sanstha. >>> >>> Maharashtra Home Minister R R Patil and Nationalist Congress Party >>> President Sharad Pawar [Images] have sought a ban on the Sanstha, >>> alleging that the organisation had played a major role in the bomb >>> blast at Gadkari Rangaytan in Thane in June this year. >>> >>> Sanatan Sanstha spokeperson Abhay Vartak spoke to rediff.com's Vicky >>> Nanjappa about the demand for the ban, Hindu terrorism and also their >>> activities. >>> >>> Maharashtra Home Minister R R Patil and NCP chief Sharad Pawar have >>> demanded a ban on the Sanatan Sanstha. What are your views on this? >>> >>> It is a politically motivated move. The government wants to appease >>> Muslims and also wants to cover up its non-performance in handling the >>> law and order situation. Take a look at the violence incited by NCP >>> activists in Nashik where a Vishwa Hindu Parishad office was attacked. >>> >>> The Sanatan Sanstha, a non-political spiritual organisation, is an >>> easy scapegoat. It is surprising that those who are demanding a ban >>> have not paid any attention to the Sanatan's activities. It has many >>> public awareness campaigns to its credit over the last 18 years. >>> >>> Does your outfit encourage Hindu terrorism? >>> >>> No, we don't encourage terrorism. We denounce the term 'Hindu >>> terrorism'. Our so-called secular-minded friends declare openly that >>> terrorists have no religion. We are involved in spreading spiritualism >>> as per the Sanatan Hindu Dharma. Obviously the philosophy we propagate >>> is all inclusive and most tolerant. >>> >>> Your activists are alleged to be involved in the Gadkari Rangaytan >>> blast in Thane, and the Rabodi riots. >>> >>> We have nothing to do with both. As far as Gadkari Rangaytan case is >>> concerned we have already and repeatedly made our position clear by >>> denouncing the act and helped the police investigate the case. We have >>> nothing to do with the Rabodi riots, which was a result of Muslim >>> aggressiveness. It is political propaganda to malign us. We have >>> demanded proof and are getting legal advice to take action. >>> >>> Your critics describe you as the Hindu equivalent of the Students >>> Islamic Movement of India. Are you? What exactly do you do? >>> >>> We are not. There is hardly any sense in it. We are involved in >>> spreading national feelings, dreaming of an India which will show the >>> path of peace to the world. Compare this with what SIMI [Images] aims >>> to do. We are a Hindutvawadi spiritual organisation working in society >>> for its spiritual upliftment. And as the spiritual truths explained by >>> Sanatan Hindu Dharma is all inclusive, there are many non-Hindus who >>> are doing spiritual practice as per the Sanatan's guidance. I think >>> this much shall be sufficient to stop comparing SIMI with us once and >>> for all. >>> >>> There has been a lot of focus on terrorism allegedly executed by >>> Muslims, but your organisation is said to be in the forefront of >>> encouraging Hindu terrorism. Do you believe in tit for tat? >>> >>> The whole statement needs a closer look. If you take terrorism as a >>> problem faced by this country then it is wrong to say there is a lot >>> of focus on terrorism. Actually, there is comparatively less focus on >>> terrorism as compared to the magnitude of the actual problem. >>> >>> There is nothing called 'Hindu terrorism'. Actually our secular >>> friends say that terrorism is terrorism and it shall not be labeled as >>> 'Muslim terrorism'. We believe in firm, impartial handling of >>> terrorism cases by the government. But the government and its >>> political allies are not interested in doing so. The neglect of Hindu >>> genocide in Kashmir and Afzal Guru's case are worth noting. Despite >>> Hindu genocide in Kashmir there is no tit for tat feeling or counter- >>> terrorist attacks by Hindus and this clearly shows that there is no >>> such thing as Hindu terrorism here. >>> >>> Critics say the authorities are soft on Hindu terrorism, cracking down >>> only on Muslim terrorism. Isn't it true? How else will you explain >>> away the inaction in the Nanded blasts, the Kanpur blasts? >>> >>> There is no such a thing as Hindu terrorism so how can the government >>> act against something which doesn't exist? >>> >>> There is a Congress government in Maharashtra and this party never is >>> and was Hindutvawadi. In Uttar Pradesh [Images], Mayawati [Images] is >>> in power. Better ask them this question. In Maharashtra, the police >>> officers who have honestly worked and controlled the riots at Rabodi >>> are facing punishment in the form of transfer and suspension. It is >>> communalising of the police force. The media seems to have overlooked >>> this angle. >>> >>> Who do you think planted the bombs at Malegaon and Modasa? >>> >>> The government agencies are there to investigate. We are not >>> interested in wild speculation. >>> >>> There have been several appeals made by the Shiv Sena and the Ram Sena >>> in Karnataka to fight terror with an eye for an eye approach. Does the >>> Sanatan Sanstha support this? >>> >>> To the best of my knowledge, they are seeking resistance to the >>> aggression against Hindus. Now how terror needs to be fought with the >>> government agencies failing, needs debate. >>> >>> Do you think the only way to fight terrorism is by terrorism? >>> >>> Terrorism [Images] as understood generally is a physical phenomenon. >>> But we understand a physical phenomenon doesn't appear from nowhere. >>> Behind any physical action there is a thought. And thought is based on >>> beliefs and perceptions. Similarly, terrorism as a physical phenomenon >>> is the result of ideology. An ideology is a product of faith, >>> perceptions etc. The intellectual expression which gives rise to >>> physical acts of terrorism needs to be countered also. >>> >>> Not only this but any intellectual expression is a manifestation of a >>> spiritual phenomenon. That also needs to be countered. We believe that >>> better attention should be paid to these dimensions if we are >>> considering ways to counter terrorism. >>> >>> What is your take on the recent anti-Christian violence unleashed by >>> Hindu organisations? Don't you think such violence shames Hindus, a >>> majority of whom do not share this violent ideology? >>> >>> No one will support violence on innocents. The violence occurring in >>> Orissa is a reaction to the killing of Swami Lakshmananada and his >>> associates. The reaction is of the common people. Yes a majority of >>> Hindus do not share violent ideology but the majority also don't want >>> conversions by force and allurement, genocide of their brethren in >>> Kashmir, appeasement of Muslims by instruments like the Sachar report >>> and its implementation, denigration of their deities -- the list of >>> such aggression is endless. So if one wants to curb such a physical >>> reaction to violence then one should be willing to address the issues >>> of aggression of various kinds that produce the reaction. >>> >>> Hinduism today is rife with so many negatives. Caste has become more >>> and more institutionalised, ill-treatment of women is still going on, >>> illiteracy is another bane, and the tribals live beyond the pale of >>> civilisation. Shouldn't organisations such as yours function as social >>> reformers, remove the negatives from the religion? What are you doing >>> in this regard? >>> >>> Before we make a list of what is bad in Hinduism, one should make an >>> attempt to see what is good in Hinduism as well. Many things you have >>> enlisted appear as small things blown out of proportion in this >>> context. The issues you mentioned better be discussed individually and >>> separately rather than branding Hinduism as a cause for what you have >>> enlisted in general. >>> >>> Whatever it is we are actively involved in dharmashikshan (educating >>> people about Hinduism). It is this aspect which has been seriously >>> neglected for various reasons and is an important cause of many of the >>> problems faced by Hinduism today. Apart from this we are active in >>> curbing malpractices in public celebrations like Ganeshostav, moral >>> value education, educating people about stress-free life through >>> spiritual practice. We as an organisation treat all castes and sexes >>> as equal. >>> >>> There were some photographs being circulated on the internet regarding >>> terror training camps sponsored by the Bajrang Dal. What are your >>> views on this? >>> >>> We have not come across such a thing. If indeed such is the case then >>> it will be a good question to ask the government authorities. >>> >>> If the Union government decides to ban the Sanatan Sanstha what will >>> you do? >>> >>> We will fight the ban in a court of law and on public platforms, apart >>> from praying to God to give some sense to the Union government. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
