Hi ,
 
American presence in Afganisthan cannot be equated to that of Iraq . It is 
needed that America should get out of IraQ but American involvement is needed 
in Afganisthan to 
check Taliban propagated Fascism in that country . 
>From experience we can say that Imperialism is better than fascism in the then 
>Talibhan 
ruled Afganisthan . 
 
regards 
sreenivas
bangalore 
 
 
 
 

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From: Anivar Aravind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [GreenYouth] Congrats, Obama! Now out of Afghanistan and Iraq!
To: "Greenyouth" <[email protected]>, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL 
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Date: Friday, 7 November, 2008, 2:40 PM

http://www.forum-adb.org/Old-Monk/20081107.htm

Congrats, Obama! Now out of Afghanistan and Iraq!
Wilfred D'Costa
7 November 2008

The victory of young Barack Hussein Obama II has heralded a new era in
US imperialist history. Most progressive activists in the US agree
upon the wide rift between the hopes raised and actual possibilities
that the "system" may permit. Most of them acknowledge the new
opportunities opened. One activist rather effusively puts it: "I think
most of us are walking around with a little bit of knot in our
stomachs, almost afraid to really hope that this will come out a win.
It's a scary time, but at the same time, assuming Obama wins this
election, and they get a few more progressive members in the House, I
think our work [has] just only begun."

They do, however, seriously disagree on how to approach this upsurge
of hopes. This keen pining for "change." For more detailed views,
click here.

Camilo Mejía, the first active-duty soldier to go public with his
decision to refuse redeployment to Iraq and the chair of the board of
Iraq Veterans Against the War writes: "But to seriously address the
situation in Iraq and the eventual withdrawal from it would require
Obama to address the 180,000 private contractors in Iraq, the
permanent military bases, and the diplomatic and corporate complex
from which the U.S. government intends to run the country. And of
course, the "success" of the surge fails to recognize that more than
half of the population of Iraq is either displaced, in need of
emergency aid or dead.

The "global war on terror," the name given by the past and now
present
administrations to justify profit-driven invasions and occupations,
needs a new centerpiece. The Iraq war has become too unpopular to
continue justifying the U.S. imperial agenda."

Michel Husson's "Toxic capitalism" in International Viewpoint,
while
analysing the present crisis, says that we are witnessing today the
shaking of the very foundations of neo-liberal capitalism. It is
unfolding at an accelerating speed, and nobody is capable of saying
where it will lead. He further writes, "If Obama is elected, as seems
probable today, we cannot count on him to carry out a "Rooseveltian"
programme: he lacks the political will, but also the means, since the
rescue plan will durably weigh down the budget."

The Solidarity USA statement on Obama victory is very succint: "But
all that is precisely why Barack Obama's election and mandate didn't
come only "from below," from Black and Latino and working class and
young Americans. It also came "from above," from the elites of
corporate America. As much as they enjoy the benefits of two major
capitalist parties scrambling for power while they carry on the
business-as-usual of globalization, lean production and squeezing
maximum profits from our labor, they know that the Republican
administration has become a disaster for their system and for U.S.
imperial power...

Highlighting the "reality gap" between the hopes for peace and
justice
and the reality of the Democratic Party agenda is an urgent, immediate
task. Millions of people responded to calls for "change"; hundreds of
thousands gained organizing skills in working for Obama. In the months
and years ahead, the responsibility of the Left is working to
re-ignite social movements independent of the Democratic Party's
dictates." For full text, click here.

Am still excited like all our CSO friends from the US, Kenya &
everywhere else (Obama also worked in NGOs just like most of us!):
this guy is so young just less than 10 months older than me and not a
few decades older like other leaders!!!

If the capitalist crisis continues, and more and more people are
pauperized, we will also soon have a dalit woman heading the
1.2-billion inhabited India as Prime Minister next year to usher in a
"social revolution" as timely as Obama and shield the ruling class
from the rising discontentment due to the capitalist crisis and the
ire of the exploited oppressed majority!

-- 
Any responsible politician should be encouraging a home grown Free
Software industry because it creates the basis for future jobs.
Learning Windows is like learning to eat every meal at McDonalds.





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