.>"That the Right organises and consolidates well
and we on the secular front and the Left don't.

>..We need to learn from that and organise and consistently fight against these
fascist goons."...

Sounds both modest and reasonable,
provided we acknowledge (and devote more time for) the need to learn
about not only the forms
 but also the content,
which makes the essentials of Right Wing mobilization/ fascism in
India.
 Let's begin to look caste and gender not as separate things, but as
the Brahmanical
 amalgam Caste-Gender.
Perhaps this is unique in many ways in its ruthless ways of
challenging reason everywhere, invoking cults.
This variety of nationalism  being itself automatically embedded with
hate and bigotry, you cannot win too many people in your efforts of
defending reason.
This is probably why the RW organizations and consolidations are
qualitatively at great variance with those in the Left camps.
 The former offers simple answers to complex questions ,while the
latter often complicates even seemingly simple things just not to
offend the status-quo,
 and not to loose votes...This is one of the great paradoxes of
(Secular) India that this may be the only country in the contemporary
world where killing of  humans for no reasons would even
"democratically" bring the perpetrators to power with a greater chunk
of popular votes on their side!


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Mahtab,
>
> Dont try ur best in my lines, bz these lines are not drawn by me. Contact
> Ashley Tellis for more details.
> However, thanks for the mail
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Mahtab Alam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
> > Dear Ranjit,
> > Thanks a lot for your suggestions. We will try our
> > best in future on the same lines.
>
> > Regards,
> > Mahtab
>
> > 2008/11/10 Ranjit Ranjit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >> Hi hany,
>
> >> This is what Ashley wrote in response to your comment. I am posting this
> >> bz he is not a member of greenyouth and i have made the initial posting of
> >> his article. I have also invited him to greenyouth
>
> >> ranjit
>
> >> Dear Ranjit,
>
> >> Please post this on my behalf on greenyouth as I am not a member.
>
> >> Thanks
> >> ashley
>
> >> In reponse to Dr. Hany Babu's retort to my article:
>
> >> Seeking police protection in advance is wise because then they cannot
> >> stand by as mute witnesses but have to take action. I also meant asking
> >> students to act as security and not just depend on the police as we have
> >> done in the past at such events.
>
> >> The second reason offered by Dr. Babu does not make any sense in relation
> >> to dependence or the lack of it on the police. Demonstrations are fine but
> >> not unless they are consolidated with consistent action. We had a great
> >> demonstration early this year over the History Department vndalism by the
> >> same people and at the close of the year we have this. What does that 
> >> prove?
> >> That coming out in hundreds on one day means nothing in the long run.
>
> >> I was well aware of the reactions of the audience (much of it was in the
> >> press release) and I commend them, But these are simply not enough. Geelani
> >> was spat upon and humiiated, microphones broken, tables and chairs
> >> vandalised, windows broken. All of this can and must be avoided in the
> >> future by creating a strong secular student-teacher body like the erstwhile
> >> Delhi University Forum for Democracy. That it died is indication of the
> >> whole point of my article. That the Right organises and consolidates well
> >> and we on the secular front and the Left don't.
>
> >> We need to learn from that and organise and consistently fight against
> >> these fascist goons.
>
> >> --
> >> Ranjit
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