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On Nov 13, 3:57 pm, "Venugopalan K M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "...Most people do not realize that society can practise tyranny and 
> oppression
> against an individual in a far greater degree than a Government can. The
> means and scope that are open to society for oppression are more extensive
> than those that are open to Government, also they are far more effective.
> What punishment in the penal code is comparable in its magnitude and its
> severity to excommunication ?..."
> "...Indeed he showed a high degree of courage. For let is be remembered that
> he lived in times when social and religious customs however gross and unmora
> l were regarded as sacrosanct and when any doubt questioning their divine
> and moral basis was regarded not merely as heterodoxy but as intolerable
> blasphemy and sacrilege..."
>
> "...The Hindu philosophers had. both their philosophy and their Manu held
> apart in two hands, the right not knowing what the left had. The Hindu is
> never troubled by their inconsistency, As to their social system, can
> thingsbe worst
> ? The Caste system is in itself a degenerate form of the Chaturvarnya which
> is the ideal of the Hindu. How can anybody who is not  a congenital idiot
> accept Chaturvarnya as the ideal form of society ? Individually and socially
> it is a folly and a crime. One class and one class alone to be entitled to
> education and learning! One class and one class alone to be entitled to arms
> ! One class and one class alone to trade! One class and one class alone to
> serve! For the Individual the consequences are obvious. Where can you find a
> learned man who has no means of livelihood who will not degrade his education.
> ? Where can you find a soldier with no education and culture who will use
> his arms to conserve and not to destroy ? Where can you find a merchant with
> nothing but the acquisitive instinct to follow who will not descend to the
> level of the brute ? Where can you find the servant who is not to
> acquireeducation, who is not to own arms and who is not to po
> ssess other means of livelihood to be a man as his maker intended him to be
> ? If baneful to the individual it makes society vulnerable. It is not enough
> for a social structure to be good for a fair weather. It must *be* able to
> weather the storm. Can the Hindu caste  system stand the gale and the wind
> of an aggression ? It is obvious that it cannot...."
> "...No wonder the Hindu Society had its moral bonds loosened to a dangerous
> point. The East India Company had in 1819 to pass a Regulation (VII of 1819)
> to put a stop to this moral degeneracy. The preamble to the Regulation says
> that women were employed wholesale to entice and take away the wives or
> female children for purposes of prostitution, and it was common practice
> among husbands and fathers to desert their families and children. Public
> conscience there was none, and in the absence of conscience it was futile to
> expect moral indignation against the social wrongs. Indeed the Brahmins were
> engaged in defending every wrong for the simple reason that they lived on
> them. They defended Untouchability which condemned millions to the lot of
> the helot. They defended caste, they defended female child marriage and they
> defended enforced widowhood—the two great props of the Caste system. They
> defended the burning of widows, and they defended the social system of
> graded inequality with its rule of hypergamy which led the Rajputs to kill
> in their thousands the daughters that were born to them. What shames ! What
> wrongs! Can such a society show its face before civilized nations ? Can such
> a society hope to survive ? Such were the questions which Ranade asked. He
> concluded that on only one condition it could be saved—namely, rigorous
> social reform...."
>
> "...His (Ranade's) greatest opponents however came from the politicle school
> of the intelligentsia. These politicals developed a new thesis. According to
> that thesis political reform was to have precedence over social reform...."
> "....The thesis caught the imagination of the people. If there was one
> single cause to which the blocking of the Social Reform movement could be
> attributed, it was this cry of political reform. The thesis is
> unsupportable, and I have no doubt that the opponents of Ranade were wrong
> and in pursuing it did not serve the best interests of the country".
> The idea of making a gift of fundamental rights to every individual is no
> doubt very laudable. The question is how to make them effective ? 'The preva
> lent. view is that once rights are enacted in a law then they are safeguarded.
> This again is an unwarranted assumption. *As* experience proves, rights are
> protected not* by* law but by the social and moral conscience of society. If
> social conscience is such that it is prepared to recognizes the rights which
> law chooses to enact rights will be safe and secure. But if the fundamental
> rights are opposed by the community, no Law no Parliament, no judiciary can
> guarantee them in the real sense of the  word. What is the use of the
> fundamental
> rights to the Negroes in America., to the. Jews in Germany and to the Untouc
> hables in India.? As Burke said, there is no method found for punishing the
> multitude. Law can punish a single solitary recalcitrant criminal. It can
> never operate against a whole body of people who are determined to defy it.S
> ocial conscience—to use the language of Coleridge—that calm incorruptible
> legislator of the soul without whom ail other powers would " meet in mere
> oppugnancy—  is the only safeguard of all rights fundamental or
> non-fundamental..."
> "....The formal framework of democracy is of no value and would indeed be a
> misfit if there was no social democracy. The politicals never realized that
> democracy was not* *a form of Government. It was essentially a form of socie
> ty. It may not be necessary for a democratic society to be marked by unity,
> by community of purpose, by loyalty to public ends and by mutuality of symp
> athy. But it does unmistakably involve two things. The first is an attitude
> of mind, an attitude of respect and equality towards their fellows. The second
> is a social organization free from rigid social barriers. Democracy is
> incompatible and inconsistent with isolation and exclusiveness, resulting in
> the distinction between the privileged and the unprivileged.
> Unfortunately,the opponents of Ra
> nade were never able to realize the truth of this fact...."
>
> "...Ranade was not only wise but he was also logical. He told his opponents
> against playing the part of Political Radicals and Social Tones. In clear
> and unmistakable terms he warned them saying :
> " ..You canned be liberal by halves. You cannot be liberal in politics and
> conservative in religion. The heart and the head must go together. You
> cannot cultivate your intellect, enrich your mind, enlarge the sphere of your
> political rights and  privileges, and at the same time keep your hearts
> closed and cramped. It is an idle dream to expect men to remain enchained
> and enshackled in their own superstition and social evils, while they  are
> struggling hard to win rights and privileges from their rulers. Before long
> these vain dreamers will  find their dreams lost."..."
> "....Who are the present day politicians with whom Ranade is to be compared ?
> Ranade was a great politician of his day. He must therefore be compared with
> the greatest of today. We have on the horizon of India two great men, so big
> that they could be identified without being named—Gandhi and Jinnah. What
> sort of a history they will make may be a matter for posterity to tell. For
> us it is enough that they do indisputably make headlines for the Press. They
> hold leading strings. One leads the Hindus, the other leads the Muslims.
> They are the idols and heroes of the hour. I propose to compare them with
> Ranade. How do they compare with Ranade ? It is necessary to make some
> observations upon their temperaments and methods with which they have now
> familiarized us. I can give only my impressions of them, for what they are
> worth. The first thing that strikes me is that it would be difficult to find
> two persons who would rival them for their colossal egotism, to whom
> personal ascendancy is everything and the cause of the country a mere
> counter on the table. They have made Indian politics a matter of personal
> feud. Consequences have no terror for them ; indeed they do not occur to
> them until they happen. When they do happen they either forget the cause, or
> if they remember it, they overlook it with a complacency which saves them
> from any remorse. They choose to stand on a pedestal of splendid isolation.
> They wall themselves off from their equals. They prefer to open themselves
> to their inferiors. They are very unhappy at and impatient of criticism, but
> are very happy to be fawned upon by flunkeys. Both have developed a
> wonderful stagecraft and arrange things in such a way that they are always
> in the limelight wherever they go. Each of course claims to be supreme. If
> supremacy was their only claim, it would be a small wonder. In addition to
> supremacy each claims infallibility for himself. "
> "Politics in the hands of these two great men have become a competition in
> extravaganza. If Mr. Gandhi is known as Mahatma, Mr. Jinnah must be known as
> Qaid-i-Azim. If Gandhi has the Congress, Mr. Jinnah must have the Muslim
> League. If the Congress has a Working Committee and the All-India Congress
> Committee, the Muslim League must have its Working Committee and its
> Council. The session of the Congress must be followed by a session of the
> League. It the Congress issues a statement the League must also follow suit.
> If the Congress passes a Resolution of 17,000 words, the Muslim League's
> Resolution must exceed it by at least a thousand words. If the Congress
> President has a Press Conference, the Muslim League President must have his.
> If the Congress must address an: appeal to the United Nations, the Muslim
> League must not allow itself to be outbidden. When is all this to end? When
> is there to be a settlement? There are no near prospects. They will not
> meet, except on preposterous conditions. Jinnah insists that Gandhi should
> admit that he is a Hindu. Gandhi insists that Jinnah should admit that he is
> one of the leaders of the Muslims. Never has there been such a deplorable
> state of bankruptcy of statesmanship as one sees in these two leaders of
> India. They are making long and interminable speeches, like lawyers whose
> trade it is to contest everything, concede nothing and talk by the hour.
> Suggest anything by way of solution for the deadlock to either of them, and
> it is met by an everlasting " Nay ". Neither will consider a solution of the
> problems which is not eternal. Between them Indian politics has become
> "frozen" to use a well-known Banking phrase and no political action is
> possible."..
>
> *( RANADE, GANDHI AND JINNAH*
>
> *
> _______________________________________________________________________________________
> *
> Address delivered on the 101st Birthday Celebration
>
> *of*
> MAHADEO GOVIND RANADE
>
> *held on the 18th January 1943*
>
> *in*
>
> *the Gokhale Memorial Hall, Poona *
> *First Published: 1943 Reprinted from the first edition of 1943* )
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