On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:30 PM, damodar prasad <[email protected]>wrote: For puritanical vigilantes and the media , it is lucrative in the sense they mutually bribe each other with cultural capital. The news-starved reporter has "spy'"cy braking news and puritnanics, a chance to show-off in some news nite programme exhorting 'nativism". The new triad of press, puritanics and police.
> d.prasad > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Luisa Steur <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I agree the media are guilty too--they must have known about the attack, >> otherwise why would they be there right at that time and place--so probably >> the attackers and the media coordinated the whole thing together. That's >> precisely also what happened when I was fysically attacked by Naxal >> vigilantes in Kerala (they were also shouting that I was supposedly being >> "immoral", staying in a hotel room with just another woman--it's apparently >> a crime to travel without some male relative..). And the police threatening >> the women in Karnataka with booking a case of immoral trafficking is all too >> familiar too--that's exactly what the police did in my case: they threatened >> to put me in jail for being a spy (and the threats were very forcefull and >> really quite traumatic). I was naive enough not to consider bribing them to >> let me go (the woman in Karnataka was more clever in that respect). Anyway, >> so there it is: a lucrative business for patriarchal vigilantes, the media >> and the police... >> Luisa >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* aryakrishnan ramakrishnan <[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 January, 2009 7:24:42 >> >> *Subject:* [GreenYouth] Re: 17 arrested for Mangalore pub assault >> >> >> From Saleem's mail and in Neelan's blog blurb in Anivar's post, >> Mangalore incident and middleclass is mentioned. >> >> I wonder whether that changes the situation. I think each issue has >> its value, as it deserves. There could be other causes and issues and >> worst cases, but this needs to be taken seriously. >> >> If the attacked women come from middle class or not. It is true that >> the media picked it up for its middleclass ethos. But a close scrutiny >> proves that media was infact participating in the violence. All the >> cameras were ready there at the moment of the attact and all the >> channels got good clippings of the attack. But the voyeurs didn't even >> have the feeling that they should intervene and stop it. >> >> Infact they need to be considered as criminals along with other >> criminals. And we should fight to ban this terror outfit. >> >> >> >> Aryan >> >> In Kerala, the state is promoting community policing,day by day. The >> news paper reports on this is terrifying. Infact what happens is that >> the state is expanding itself by capturing more governmental power by >> cameras and spies. >> >> 2009/1/28 Anivar Aravind <[email protected]>: >> > >> > From a Blog Comment By Nalan >> > >> > http://www.hindu.com/2009/01/27/stories/2009012759421000.htm# >> > >> > ഇപ്പോള് മാത്രമാണു മംഗലാപുരം സംഭവം ചില മാധ്യമങ്ങളിലെങ്കിലും >> > വാര്ത്തയായത്, ഉപരിവര്ഗ്ഗത്തെ ബാധിച്ചപ്പോള് മാത്രം !.. >> > >> > താഴെയുള്ള ലിങ്കുകള് നോക്കൂ - കര്ണ്ണാടകത്തില് ഗുജറാത്ത് മോഡല് >> > പരീക്ഷണത്തിനു വേഗത കൂടിയത് ബി.ജെ.പി അധികാരത്തില് വന്നതോടെയാണു. >> > >> > Women are taking the brunt of 'activism' Moral policing >> > http://www.thehindu.com/2008/09/08/stories/2008090860790600.htm >> > >> > College bus stoned; five students and driver hurt >> > http://www.hindu.com/2008/12/28/stories/2008122850450100.htm >> > >> > Cracking down on 'violations of moral code' in Dakshina Kannada >> > http://www.thehindu.com/2008/09/07/stories/2008090750160100.htm >> > >> > How Karnataka is becoming Gujarat of the South >> > >> http://communalism.blogspot.com/2008/03/how-karnataka-is-becoming-gujarat-of.html >> > >> > Two attacked for selling beef: vedike >> > http://www.hindu.com/2008/04/02/stories/2008040254390400.htm >> > >> > Egg on whose face? >> > http://www.hindu.com/2007/01/25/stories/2007012503421100.htm >> > >> > Ban on beef sale draws criticism >> > http://www.thehindu.com/2008/11/21/stories/2008112155520500.htm >> > >> > Who will control the vigilantes? Moral policing >> > http://www.hindu.com/2008/09/09/stories/2008090954450400.htm >> > >> > Moral police' caution New Year eve revellers in Mysore >> > http://www.hindu.com/2008/12/28/stories/2008122854690500.htm >> > >> > Karnataka government backs moral policing >> > http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080062353 >> > >> > Ban on live bands in Bangalore pubs - Moral policing to stop crimes! >> > >> http://www.zorsebol.com/lifestyle/ban-on-live-bands-in-bangalore-pubs-moral-policing-to-stop-crimes/ >> > >> > Bangalore city pub ransacked by 'moral police' >> > http://www.expressindia.com/news/fullstory.php?newsid=86039 >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:03 AM, salimtk <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> the mentioned organizations also stand for indian's 'national' freedom. >> >> so first define what's indian's freedom. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Joseph Saluting NSG Commandos...... >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Friends, how can we prevent these idiots(BJP,RSS,SREERAM SENA,....) >> from >> >>> acting against Indian's Freedom. >> >>> >> >>> We have to wake up from our sleep otherwise, these fools will kill us >> in >> >>> our sleep........... >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:22 PM, damodar prasad < >> [email protected]> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Seen from a Secular, Modern and Liberal perspectives, except for some >> >>>> subtleties in practice, there is no much of a difference between >> Fascism ( >> >>>> social fascism as well) , Talibanism and Sanghism. Syntagmatic >> replacement >> >>>> of one by another does not change the meaning. >> >>>> >> >>>> But if you find these modern values as a problem field, then of >> course >> >>>> the differences have to be accounted. >> >>>> >> >>>> As sanjeev said, in the post-masjid demolition period sangh >> parivarism >> >>>> best communicates the kind of vandalism and violence that Manglore >> has >> >>>> witnessed. >> >>>> >> >>>> Talibanism does not evoke any sympathies, I suppose!! >> >>>> >> >>>> d.Prasad >> >>>> >> >>>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:12 PM, bharadwaj reshma <[email protected] >> > >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Why seek another name when SreeramSena itself is capable of invoking >> >>>>> 'terror' in all those who are not placed in advantageous locations ( >> by name >> >>>>> or privileges) ? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Perhaps, Sreeramsena or Sangh Parivar doesn't appear 'pre--modern" >> >>>>> enough >> >>>>> compared to the nonsecular/pre-modern appeal of 'Taliban' in secular >> >>>>> commonsense. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> It tells more about those who speak/ listen than the incident >> itself. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> --- On Tue, 27/1/09, S sanjeev <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> > From: S sanjeev <[email protected]> >> >>>>> > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: 17 arrested for Mangalore pub assault >> >>>>> > To: [email protected] >> >>>>> > Date: Tuesday, 27 January, 2009, 6:40 PM >> >>>>> > dear gladson dungdung,I think it's not just the positing >> >>>>> > of a model, but the act >> >>>>> > of naming itself that is being contested. >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > When Taliban ordered the demolition of Bamian Buddhas in >> >>>>> > 2001 did >> >>>>> > any human rights activists or journalists describe it >> >>>>> > "Sanghparivarism" (courtesy: >> >>>>> > nuiman) since it was the best model available at the time, >> >>>>> > post-Babri Masjid? >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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