Indian liberal sociologist  andre betteile is always saying about the path of 
fascism in india-that is from  populist democracy.no one believes in the 
institutions and its functional norms.
what is the meaning of constitutional morality in india?

--- On Thu, 11/6/09, Karthik Navayan <nava...@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Karthik Navayan <nava...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Governor can sanction Minister's prosecution,  says 
> Supreme Court 2004
> To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, 11 June, 2009, 3:28 PM
> well said, jyothibasu ruled pb for 25
> years, this kind of miracles was not there even with burjuva
> political parties like congress and bjp
> Karthik
> 
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:23 PM,
> Anil M <toan...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Actually people should not be concerned about CPM
> and CPI. They are not democratic parties and should not be
> allowed to play any role in a democratic setup. Their
> politics/ party structure has been always anti
> –democratic.. Can anyone imagine a more crooked setup than
> this PB and party committees? From local Vayanashala to Lok
> Sabha , they promote this culture.  This Good
> VS fighting Bad Pinarai image is just a media creation. Both
> factions have nothing do with democratic politics. They are
> champions of crooked/scheming politics 
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> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:00 PM,
> damodar prasad <damodar.pra...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> I think all non-CPM poeple should shfit focus
> from Governor to Governance. What a terrific
> mandate people gave to LDF and VS Acuthanadan. Now after 3
> years.. entha sthithi? anything other than
> factional warfare? what was this govt. doing?  what was
> the party doing?-- a big blockade;
> hindrance. 
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> FM and IM could perhaps create some impression of
> doing something. 
> Even after the durbbing they rcvd in the elections, I
> think CPM has learned nothing..
> CPI, the second major partner.. They shoulf thank CPM
> leadership for keeping them out of public attention.
> The parrty and its minsiters failed miserably. Poorest
> of poor perfomance.. pakshe, ----- no limit
> to arrogance.. day by day, Sri Sri No:2  is learning to
> perfect it as art of arrogance... 
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> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:54 PM,
> ranju radha <ranjura...@gmail.com>
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> Governor has acted against the politically motivated
> act of LDF govt to protect a corrupt politician. LDF's
> stand is against the interst of the people of kerala.
> Governor by "playing his politics" has
> stood frimly by the intersts of people in Kerala. 
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> i support "his politics".
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> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:28 PM, sunil kumar <ksunilgout...@gmail.com>
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> Its simple meaning is nothing, but Communist leaders
> are above all 'bourgeois laws'. Because they are
> fighting against Bourgeoisie! What a great revolutionary
> idea! Long live revolution! Long live Lavlin model.
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> On 09/06/2009, damodar prasad <damodar.pra...@gmail.com>
> wrote: 
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> Prevention of Corruption Act (PCA)- a
> Bourgieous enactment to save its crass compardor public
> leadersI...........
>  mean the clause clause in PCA invoked on need for
> the governor's sanction for prosecution. 
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> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:31 AM, damodar prasad <damodar.pra...@gmail.com>
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> But Rasheed, Is not the .
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> I think by the way you were arguing about the
> necessity of CPs in neo-liberal context in previous mails,
> you should've argued that CP leaders should be above the
> bourgiuoes law of PCA....... clean and
> uncontaminated..
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> Governors, of course are pawns in the hands of the
> central governemnt and the CBI is no great independent
> instituion. But is it not desirable that Communist Party
> leader and the CP institution as such should be above such
> posts? 
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> I am afraid that the way CPM has managed Lavalin,
> since the formation of this Govt., has in turn helped the
> reactionary forces. 
>  
> The stubborn stance of CPM has enabled the bourgeous
> parties reap the dividends of its mis-managed strategy.
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> ( I referrred to "formation of this Govt"
> bocz when Lavalin issue came up last time, Com. secy has
> boldly said that he is ready to face any inquiry. 
> The boldness was missing later, :-) :-) :-) only to be
> found in the words of English Desabhimani, I mean the Hindu
> editorial.) 
>  
> CPM has given an impression that something is severely
> rotten by the way it handled the issue. 
>  
> The media syndicate must have done its duty but the
> stance of CPM as regards non-compliance to judicial review
> only complicated the matter. 
>  
> As an enthusiast of CPM brand politics and observing
> politics above factional self-ineterests,
> you should be more worrying about the
> moral- voice of CPM at national level. 
>  
> The red card often held out by the CPM on corrupt
> practice and tainted ministers will no longer be available.
> 
>  
> The argument of political fight on legal issues is not
> only avaliable to CPM. Now this will echoed by anyone... i
> mean all the "compradors".. 
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> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Abdul Rasheed <rasheed...@gmail.com>
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> That does not mean that Governer is impartial.
> Sure, advocate General might have party interests. As one
> who have the right to criticize the AG, we can criticize the
> Governer too, since both of them are party nominees.
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>  
> But here the Governer acted against the advise
> of ministry and the advise of AG. He may have the
> discreetional power to take such a dicision. By doing this,
> here he became the part of a political game.
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> regards 
> Rasheed 
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> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:02 AM,
> damodar prasad <damodar.pra...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Since Advocate General is elected by the people, to
> think he will take a partial decision is against the
> commonsense. 
> But never had I thought a post-modern situation would
> prevail amidst the feudal factional struggle for Leninist
> Truth. 
> What more eveidence needed for a the arrival of
> political relativism, in other words, Most-Modern!!
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> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:11 PM,
> Abdul Rasheed <rasheed...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> The Governer is the
> nominee of the ruling party in centre. To think that he
> will take a completely impartial dicisions will be a
> stupidity. 
>  
> regards
> 
> Rasheed
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> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:40 PM,
> sunil kumar <ksunilgout...@gmail.com>
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> Governor can sanction
> Minister's prosecution, says Supreme Court 
> By Our Legal Correspondent 
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> NEW DELHI, NOV. 5. The Supreme Court today held that
> the Governor of a State could independently accord sanction
> for prosecution of a Minister in prevention of corruption
> cases without the "aid and advice" of the Council
> of Ministers. 
> A five-judge Constitution Bench, headed by Justice
> N. Santosh Hegde, observed that "if on facts and
> circumstances of a case, the Governor cannot act in his own
> discretion there would be a complete breakdown of the rule
> of law inasmuch as it would then be open for Governments to
> refuse sanction in spite of overwhelming material showing
> that a prima facie case is made out." 
> The Bench that included Justice S.N. Variava,
> Justice B.P. Singh, Justice H.K. Sema and Justice S.B. Sinha
> said: "If, in cases where [a] prima facie case
> is clearly made out, sanction to prosecute high
> functionaries is refused or withheld, democracy itself will
> be at stake. It would then lead to a situation where people
> in power may break the law with impunity safe in the
> knowledge that they will not be prosecuted as the requisite
> sanction will not be granted." 
> The Bench gave this ruling while upholding sanction
> for prosecution accorded by the then Madhya Pradesh Governor
> against two former Ministers, Rajender Kumar Singh and
> Hisahu Ram Yadav. A case under the Prevention of Corruption
> Act was registered against them in March 1998 on the basis
> of a report from the Lok Ayukta. 
> Sanction sought from the Council of Ministers for
> prosecuting the two was rejected. The Council of Ministers
> held that there was not an iota of material available
> against them for proceeding with the case. The Governor then
> considered the matter and opined that a prima facie
> case was made out for granting sanction and gave it under
> Section 197 of the Criminal Procedure Code. 
> The two Ministers challenged the Governor's
> decision in the High Court and both a single Judge and then
> a Division Bench quashed the Governor's order. The
> special leave petition by the Madhya Pradesh Special Police
> Establishment was directed against this judgment. 
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> opposed to the depressed class using a public tank not
> because they really believe that the water will be thereby
> spoiled or will evaporate but because they are afraid of
> losing their superiority of caste and of equality being
> established between the former and the latter. We are
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> Battula Karthik Navayan,
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>  Advocate, 
> H.No. 21-7-761, 
> Opp.High Court Post Office, 
> Gansi Bazar, Hyderabad,
>  PIN-500002, AP.
>  Cell:09346677007,
>  email:nava...@gmail.com
> http://karthiknavayan.blogspot.com/
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