Indian liberal sociologist andre betteile is always saying about the path of fascism in india-that is from populist democracy.no one believes in the institutions and its functional norms. what is the meaning of constitutional morality in india?
--- On Thu, 11/6/09, Karthik Navayan <nava...@gmail.com> wrote: > From: Karthik Navayan <nava...@gmail.com> > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Governor can sanction Minister's prosecution, says > Supreme Court 2004 > To: greenyouth@googlegroups.com > Date: Thursday, 11 June, 2009, 3:28 PM > well said, jyothibasu ruled pb for 25 > years, this kind of miracles was not there even with burjuva > political parties like congress and bjp > Karthik > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:23 PM, > Anil M <toan...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Actually people should not be concerned about CPM > and CPI. They are not democratic parties and should not be > allowed to play any role in a democratic setup. Their > politics/ party structure has been always anti > –democratic.. Can anyone imagine a more crooked setup than > this PB and party committees? From local Vayanashala to Lok > Sabha , they promote this culture. This Good > VS fighting Bad Pinarai image is just a media creation. Both > factions have nothing do with democratic politics. They are > champions of crooked/scheming politics > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:00 PM, > damodar prasad <damodar.pra...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I think all non-CPM poeple should shfit focus > from Governor to Governance. What a terrific > mandate people gave to LDF and VS Acuthanadan. Now after 3 > years.. entha sthithi? anything other than > factional warfare? what was this govt. doing? what was > the party doing?-- a big blockade; > hindrance. > > > > FM and IM could perhaps create some impression of > doing something. > Even after the durbbing they rcvd in the elections, I > think CPM has learned nothing.. > CPI, the second major partner.. They shoulf thank CPM > leadership for keeping them out of public attention. > The parrty and its minsiters failed miserably. Poorest > of poor perfomance.. pakshe, ----- no limit > to arrogance.. day by day, Sri Sri No:2 is learning to > perfect it as art of arrogance... > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:54 PM, > ranju radha <ranjura...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Governor has acted against the politically motivated > act of LDF govt to protect a corrupt politician. LDF's > stand is against the interst of the people of kerala. > Governor by "playing his politics" has > stood frimly by the intersts of people in Kerala. > > > i support "his politics". > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:28 PM, sunil kumar <ksunilgout...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Its simple meaning is nothing, but Communist leaders > are above all 'bourgeois laws'. Because they are > fighting against Bourgeoisie! What a great revolutionary > idea! Long live revolution! Long live Lavlin model. > > > > > > > > > > > On 09/06/2009, damodar prasad <damodar.pra...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Prevention of Corruption Act (PCA)- a > Bourgieous enactment to save its crass compardor public > leadersI........... > mean the clause clause in PCA invoked on need for > the governor's sanction for prosecution. > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:31 AM, damodar prasad <damodar.pra...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > But Rasheed, Is not the . > > > > > > I think by the way you were arguing about the > necessity of CPs in neo-liberal context in previous mails, > you should've argued that CP leaders should be above the > bourgiuoes law of PCA....... clean and > uncontaminated.. > > > > Governors, of course are pawns in the hands of the > central governemnt and the CBI is no great independent > instituion. But is it not desirable that Communist Party > leader and the CP institution as such should be above such > posts? > > > > I am afraid that the way CPM has managed Lavalin, > since the formation of this Govt., has in turn helped the > reactionary forces. > > The stubborn stance of CPM has enabled the bourgeous > parties reap the dividends of its mis-managed strategy. > > > ( I referrred to "formation of this Govt" > bocz when Lavalin issue came up last time, Com. secy has > boldly said that he is ready to face any inquiry. > The boldness was missing later, :-) :-) :-) only to be > found in the words of English Desabhimani, I mean the Hindu > editorial.) > > CPM has given an impression that something is severely > rotten by the way it handled the issue. > > The media syndicate must have done its duty but the > stance of CPM as regards non-compliance to judicial review > only complicated the matter. > > As an enthusiast of CPM brand politics and observing > politics above factional self-ineterests, > you should be more worrying about the > moral- voice of CPM at national level. > > The red card often held out by the CPM on corrupt > practice and tainted ministers will no longer be available. > > > The argument of political fight on legal issues is not > only avaliable to CPM. Now this will echoed by anyone... i > mean all the "compradors".. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Abdul Rasheed <rasheed...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > That does not mean that Governer is impartial. > Sure, advocate General might have party interests. As one > who have the right to criticize the AG, we can criticize the > Governer too, since both of them are party nominees. > > > > > But here the Governer acted against the advise > of ministry and the advise of AG. He may have the > discreetional power to take such a dicision. By doing this, > here he became the part of a political game. > > > > > regards > Rasheed > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:02 AM, > damodar prasad <damodar.pra...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Since Advocate General is elected by the people, to > think he will take a partial decision is against the > commonsense. > But never had I thought a post-modern situation would > prevail amidst the feudal factional struggle for Leninist > Truth. > What more eveidence needed for a the arrival of > political relativism, in other words, Most-Modern!! > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:11 PM, > Abdul Rasheed <rasheed...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > The Governer is the > nominee of the ruling party in centre. To think that he > will take a completely impartial dicisions will be a > stupidity. > > regards > > Rasheed > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:40 PM, > sunil kumar <ksunilgout...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Governor can sanction > Minister's prosecution, says Supreme Court > By Our Legal Correspondent > > > NEW DELHI, NOV. 5. The Supreme Court today held that > the Governor of a State could independently accord sanction > for prosecution of a Minister in prevention of corruption > cases without the "aid and advice" of the Council > of Ministers. > A five-judge Constitution Bench, headed by Justice > N. Santosh Hegde, observed that "if on facts and > circumstances of a case, the Governor cannot act in his own > discretion there would be a complete breakdown of the rule > of law inasmuch as it would then be open for Governments to > refuse sanction in spite of overwhelming material showing > that a prima facie case is made out." > The Bench that included Justice S.N. Variava, > Justice B.P. Singh, Justice H.K. Sema and Justice S.B. Sinha > said: "If, in cases where [a] prima facie case > is clearly made out, sanction to prosecute high > functionaries is refused or withheld, democracy itself will > be at stake. It would then lead to a situation where people > in power may break the law with impunity safe in the > knowledge that they will not be prosecuted as the requisite > sanction will not be granted." > The Bench gave this ruling while upholding sanction > for prosecution accorded by the then Madhya Pradesh Governor > against two former Ministers, Rajender Kumar Singh and > Hisahu Ram Yadav. A case under the Prevention of Corruption > Act was registered against them in March 1998 on the basis > of a report from the Lok Ayukta. > Sanction sought from the Council of Ministers for > prosecuting the two was rejected. The Council of Ministers > held that there was not an iota of material available > against them for proceeding with the case. The Governor then > considered the matter and opined that a prima facie > case was made out for granting sanction and gave it under > Section 197 of the Criminal Procedure Code. > The two Ministers challenged the Governor's > decision in the High Court and both a single Judge and then > a Division Bench quashed the Governor's order. The > special leave petition by the Madhya Pradesh Special Police > Establishment was directed against this judgment. > > > > > © Copyright 2000 - 2009 The Hindu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > " The so called caste-hindus are bitterly > opposed to the depressed class using a public tank not > because they really believe that the water will be thereby > spoiled or will evaporate but because they are afraid of > losing their superiority of caste and of equality being > established between the former and the latter. We are > resorting to this satyagraha not becasue we believe that the > water of this particular tank has any exceptional qualities, > but to establish our natural rights as citizens and human > beings." > > > > - Dr B.R. Ambedkar, Mahad Satyagraha Conference, December > 25th , 1927 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Battula Karthik Navayan, > > Advocate, > H.No. 21-7-761, > Opp.High Court Post Office, > Gansi Bazar, Hyderabad, > PIN-500002, AP. > Cell:09346677007, > email:nava...@gmail.com > http://karthiknavayan.blogspot.com/ > > http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#Profile.aspx?uid=10379805095932756525 > > > > > > > > > Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter http://beta.cricket.yahoo.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to greenyouth@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---