*Dear anil * ** *Perhaps, my knowlege is little. can you tell me, who elected KPCC president? was it by kerala congress workers? Who elected youth congress president ? was it by youth congress workers? Who elected the National congress president ? Is the congress working committee an elected body? * ** *could you please explain the democracy of congress * ** *regards* *Rasheed *
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Anil M <[email protected]> wrote: > Actually people should not be concerned about CPM and CPI. They are not > democratic parties and should not be allowed to play any role in a > democratic setup. Their politics/ party structure has been always anti > –democratic. Can anyone imagine a more crooked setup than this PB and party > committees? From local Vayanashala to Lok Sabha , they promote this culture. > This Good VS fighting Bad Pinarai image is just a media creation. Both > factions have nothing do with democratic politics. They are champions of > crooked/scheming politics > > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:00 PM, damodar prasad > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I think all non-CPM poeple should shfit *focus from Governor to >> Governance*. What a terrific mandate people gave to LDF and VS >> Acuthanadan. Now after 3 years.. *entha sthithi*? anything other than >> factional warfare? what was this govt. doing? what was the party doing?-- >> *a big blockade; hindrance.* >> >> FM and IM could perhaps create some impression of doing something. >> Even after the durbbing they rcvd in the elections, I think CPM has >> learned nothing. >> CPI, the second major partner.. They shoulf thank CPM leadership for >> keeping them out of public attention. >> The parrty and its minsiters failed miserably. Poorest of poor >> perfomance.. *pakshe*, *----- no limit to arrogance.. day by day, Sri Sri >> No:2 is learning to perfect it as art of arrogance... * >> ** >> ** >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:54 PM, ranju radha <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Governor has acted against the politically motivated act of LDF govt to >>> protect a corrupt politician. LDF's stand is against the interst of the >>> people of kerala. Governor by "playing his politics" has stood frimly by the >>> intersts of people in Kerala. >>> i support "his politics". >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:28 PM, sunil kumar >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Its simple meaning is nothing, but Communist leaders are above all >>>> 'bourgeois laws'. Because they are fighting against Bourgeoisie! What a >>>> great revolutionary idea! Long live revolution! Long live Lavlin model. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 09/06/2009, damodar prasad <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> *Prevention of Corruption Act (PCA)- a Bourgieous enactment to save >>>>> its crass compardor public leaders*I........... >>>>> mean the clause clause in PCA invoked on need for the governor's >>>>> sanction for prosecution. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:31 AM, damodar prasad < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> *But Rasheed, Is not the . * >>>>>> *I think by the way you were arguing about the necessity of CPs in >>>>>> neo-liberal context in previous mails, you should've argued that CP >>>>>> leaders >>>>>> should be above the bourgiuoes law of PCA....... clean and uncontaminated >>>>>> *.. >>>>>> >>>>>> Governors, of course are pawns in the hands of the central governemnt >>>>>> and the CBI is no great independent instituion. But is it not desirable >>>>>> that >>>>>> Communist Party leader and the CP institution as such should be above >>>>>> such >>>>>> posts? >>>>>> >>>>>> I am afraid that the way CPM has managed Lavalin, since the formation >>>>>> of this Govt., has in turn helped the reactionary forces. >>>>>> >>>>>> The stubborn stance of CPM has enabled the bourgeous parties reap the >>>>>> dividends of its mis-managed strategy. >>>>>> >>>>>> ( I referrred to "formation of this Govt" bocz when Lavalin issue came >>>>>> up last time, Com. secy has boldly said that he is ready to face any >>>>>> inquiry. >>>>>> The boldness was missing later, :-) :-) :-) only to be found in the >>>>>> words of English Desabhimani, I mean the Hindu editorial.) >>>>>> >>>>>> CPM has given an impression that something is severely rotten by the >>>>>> way it handled the issue. >>>>>> >>>>>> The media syndicate must have done its duty but the stance of CPM as >>>>>> regards non-compliance to judicial review only complicated the matter. >>>>>> >>>>>> As an enthusiast of CPM brand politics and observing politics above >>>>>> factional self-ineterests, *you* should be more worrying about the >>>>>> moral- voice of CPM at national level. >>>>>> >>>>>> The red card often held out by the CPM on corrupt practice and tainted >>>>>> ministers will no longer be available. >>>>>> >>>>>> The argument of political fight on legal issues is not only avaliable >>>>>> to CPM. Now this will echoed by anyone.. i mean all the "compradors".. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Abdul Rasheed < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *That does not mean that Governer is impartial. Sure, advocate >>>>>>> General might have party interests. As one who have the right to >>>>>>> criticize >>>>>>> the AG, we can criticize the Governer too, since both of them are party >>>>>>> nominees. * >>>>>>> ** >>>>>>> *But here the Governer acted against the advise of ministry and the >>>>>>> advise of AG. He may have the discreetional power to take such a >>>>>>> dicision. >>>>>>> By doing this, here he became the part of a political game.* >>>>>>> ** >>>>>>> ** >>>>>>> *regards * >>>>>>> *Rasheed * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:02 AM, damodar prasad < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Since Advocate General is elected by the people, to think he will >>>>>>>> take a partial decision is against the commonsense. >>>>>>>> But never had I thought a post-modern situation would prevail amidst >>>>>>>> the feudal factional struggle for Leninist Truth. >>>>>>>> What more eveidence needed for a the arrival of political >>>>>>>> relativism, in other words, Most-Modern!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Abdul Rasheed <[email protected] >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *The Governer is the nominee of the ruling party in centre. To >>>>>>>>> think that he will take a completely impartial dicisions will be a >>>>>>>>> stupidity. * >>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>> *regards * >>>>>>>>> *Rasheed * >>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:40 PM, sunil kumar < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Governor can sanction Minister's prosecution, says Supreme Court >>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> By Our Legal Correspondent >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> NEW DELHI, NOV. 5. The Supreme Court today held that the >>>>>>>>>> Governor of a State could independently accord sanction for >>>>>>>>>> prosecution of a >>>>>>>>>> Minister in prevention of corruption cases without the "aid and >>>>>>>>>> advice" of >>>>>>>>>> the Council of Ministers. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> A five-judge Constitution Bench, headed by Justice N. Santosh >>>>>>>>>> Hegde, observed that "if on facts and circumstances of a case, the >>>>>>>>>> Governor >>>>>>>>>> cannot act in his own discretion there would be a complete breakdown >>>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>>> rule of law inasmuch as it would then be open for Governments to >>>>>>>>>> refuse >>>>>>>>>> sanction in spite of overwhelming material showing that a *prima >>>>>>>>>> facie* case is made out." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Bench that included Justice S.N. Variava, Justice B.P. Singh, >>>>>>>>>> Justice H.K. Sema and Justice S.B. Sinha said: "If, in cases where >>>>>>>>>> [a] >>>>>>>>>> *prima facie* case is clearly made out, sanction to prosecute >>>>>>>>>> high functionaries is refused or withheld, democracy itself will be >>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>> stake. It would then lead to a situation where people in power may >>>>>>>>>> break the >>>>>>>>>> law with impunity safe in the knowledge that they will not be >>>>>>>>>> prosecuted as >>>>>>>>>> the requisite sanction will not be granted." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Bench gave this ruling while upholding sanction for >>>>>>>>>> prosecution accorded by the then Madhya Pradesh Governor against two >>>>>>>>>> former >>>>>>>>>> Ministers, Rajender Kumar Singh and Hisahu Ram Yadav. A case under >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> Prevention of Corruption Act was registered against them in March >>>>>>>>>> 1998 on >>>>>>>>>> the basis of a report from the Lok Ayukta. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sanction sought from the Council of Ministers for prosecuting the >>>>>>>>>> two was rejected. The Council of Ministers held that there was not >>>>>>>>>> an iota >>>>>>>>>> of material available against them for proceeding with the case. The >>>>>>>>>> Governor then considered the matter and opined that a *prima >>>>>>>>>> facie* case was made out for granting sanction and gave it under >>>>>>>>>> Section 197 of the Criminal Procedure Code. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The two Ministers challenged the Governor's decision in the High >>>>>>>>>> Court and both a single Judge and then a Division Bench quashed the >>>>>>>>>> Governor's order. The special leave petition by the Madhya Pradesh >>>>>>>>>> Special >>>>>>>>>> Police Establishment was directed against this judgment. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> © Copyright 2000 - 2009 The Hindu >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> " The so called caste-hindus are bitterly opposed to the depressed >>>>>>> class using a public tank not because they really believe that the water >>>>>>> will be thereby spoiled or will evaporate but because they are afraid of >>>>>>> losing their superiority of caste and of equality being established >>>>>>> between >>>>>>> the former and the latter. We are resorting to this satyagraha not >>>>>>> becasue >>>>>>> we believe that the water of this particular tank has any exceptional >>>>>>> qualities, but to establish our natural rights as citizens and human >>>>>>> beings." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Dr B.R. 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