ok, thanks. On 6/12/09, venukm <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Quite interesting...Nice forward. > > Thanks. > > On 11 June, 21:49, Maya <[email protected]> wrote: > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Maya <[email protected]> > > Date: Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:01 PM > > Subject: Fw: [feministsindia] Article: having daughters make parents more > > liberal? > > To: [email protected] > > > > Maya S. > > > > --- On *Thu, 11/6/09, varsha patel <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > > From: varsha patel <[email protected]> > > Subject: [feministsindia] Article: having daughters make parents more > > liberal? > > To: "feministsindia" <[email protected]> > > Date: Thursday, 11 June, 2009, 10:47 AM > > > > Congratulations, it's a girl and you're a liberal! > > > > http://bitchmagazine.org/post/ congratulations- its-a-girl- and-youre- > > a-liberal< > http://bitchmagazine.org/post/congratulations-its-a-girl-and-youre-a-...> > > > > Breeder's Digest <http://bitchmagazine.org/blogs/breeder%27s-digest> > blog > > post <http://bitchmagazine.org/browse/results/content_type:blog> by > Veronica > > I. Arreola <http://bitchmagazine.org/profile/veronica-i-arreola>, > > > > June 10, 2009 - 2:38pm; > > > > tagged dads <http://bitchmagazine.org/browse/results/taxonomy%3A3315>, > > daughters <http://bitchmagazine.org/browse/results/taxonomy%3A3314>, > > feminist <http://bitchmagazine.org/browse/results/taxonomy%3A3318>, > > liberal<http://bitchmagazine.org/browse/results/taxonomy%3A3317>, > > voting <http://bitchmagazine.org/browse/results/taxonomy%3A3316>. > > There's an old saying "To make a man a feminist, give him a daughter." > And > > for the most part, I think it's true. Sure we have the George W. Bush and > > Dick Cheney's of the world - both with only daughters and both determined > to > > drag the USA into the dark ages - but then I think of my own dad. An old > > school man who immigrated to the USA from Mexico and chock full of the > ideas > > on how girls behave. Yet he also was gifted with three daughters and no > sons > > so he did what I've heard other men do in the same situation - He taught > me > > to love sports. And honestly that's where my feminism sprouts from. > > Thus the news of a report by Andrew J. Oswald and Nattavudh Powdthavee > out > > of the UK made headlines like: > > * Daddys with Daughters end up more > > liberal?<http://www.feministing.com/archives/015572.html> > > * From Personal Views to Politics, Only-Daughter Parents More > > Liberal< > http://womensissues.about.com/b/2009/05/20/from-personal-views-to-pol...> > > * Will Daddy's little girl alter his > > vote?<http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/643182> > > * Having daughters can make you a > > lefty< > http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/news/world/342113/having-daughters-can-m...> > > * Having Daughters Rather Than Sons Makes You More > > Liberal< > http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/05/having-daughters-rather-than-s...> > > While I did rejoice when I heard the news, I'm also a big nrrd who needs > to > > read the report< > http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/staff/faculty/oswald/daug.. > .>[PDF > > warning] and dig deeper. Was there any indication why having daughters > > does this to men? What about moms? > > Well us moms are also prone to this influence -- only in the opposite > > direction. > > "Similarly, a mother with many sons becomes sympathetic to the ‘male’ > case > > for lower taxes and a smaller supply of public goods, and becomes more > > right-wing." > > WHA?? Then I started to think of moms I know with sons. Feminist, > feminist, > > kinda, wavering, ummm...shit. > > While most of the blogs and news stories focused on the Warner & > Washington > > study cited about US Congressional voting records, the Oswald & > Powdthavee > > study actually looked at UK and German voting patterns because it was > able > > to give us evidence of a right-leaning man switching once a daughter > entered > > his life. AND it also showed that this daughter-effect is lost once she > > moves out. > > The biggest conclusion I took from the study that Oswald & Powdthavee > didn't > > seem to highlight was the socialization of children and families. The > fact > > that women, on the average, see more worth from social programs like > public > > safety makes them more willing to pay taxes for them. Men, on the other > hand > > don't and thus don't like paying taxes. I know, huge generalizations. > > So instead of "proof that conservative policy agendas hurt > > women"<http://www.feministing.com/archives/015572.html>we need to look > > at why men don't connect with social programs? Do we raise > > them more to depend on just themselves or on a community? And what does > that > > mean for our country? > > Many feminists I know are raising boys and have raised some amazing > feminist > > boys. I don't think we are so influenced by the gender of our children as > > influenced by the social environment that our children are headed into. > Thus > > parents of girls know or learn that it's freaking tough to be a woman in > a > > man's world. 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