@ Ranju,
I think your amendment is okey by me; thanks.

On Jun 27, 9:36 pm, ranju radha <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>In a narrative of DALIT POLITICS,  it is by THE REST against DALITS.>>
>
> a correction. it is not the rest against Dalits, but the caste hindu mindset
> against Dalits
> and it s a major correction especially if one wants to understand Dalit
> politics. and Dalit politics can also take care of the REST.
>
> it would be interesting to see how the proud marathy manoos behave in this
> peculiar context where Dalit Marathi manoos has been attacked by the caste
> Hindu community of men and women from bihar (if i m not mistaken). And it is
> a planned attack involving all the caste hindu community members just as in
> any atrocity case against Dalits..
>
> even in the case of chundur Dalit massacre in AP, "upper" caste women raised
> same allegations of eve-teasing to justify the gruesome murder of Dalits..
>
> On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 5:27 PM, venukm <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Sukla, you seem to suggest that the Hindu report is perhaps free from
> > bias?
> > It is here that my worse fears come true:
> > Just look at this:
> > >"The family said Ms. Yadav, who led the attack, was a Shiv Sena worker, a
> > claim Mr. Waghmare has denied.
>
> > The victims /Marati /local/dalits/ residents  "CLAIM" that the
> > attackers are from Shiv Sena.
> >  Police  Officer "DENIES" and the paper "REPORTS"it as fact!
>
> > >None came to the rescue of Kavita, except her neighbour Sayeeda Quazi, who
> > put a dupatta around her. Sayeeda's statement has been recorded.
>
> > >The entire neighbourhood, meanwhile, is tight-lipped. “Something happened,
> > but I was on work,” said a resident. Some said they were away at their
> > native places, or away from home.
>
> > Why should we take the HINDU report as though Shiva Sena had no hand
> > in this seemingly planned  incident against the background of the
> > given history of pretty long resistance by the victims?
>
> > >“Basically women were enraged by the rape of a girl. When they went to
> > [Kavita's] house, her mother shot back, saying [it wasn't as if] it had
> > happened to them. Any woman would be enraged by that, won't she?” asked a
> > shopkeeper, who claimed to know nothing of the incident.
>
> > This, I believe is the classic sample of double talk related with
> > caste, often uttered by people with ugliest minds disposed to blaming
> > of victims of caste: The shopkeeper suggests that the incident either
> > did not happen at all,
> >  or these people(dalits) are so much dirty and shameless, to be cool,
> > not to feel bad about rape!
>
> > >Kavita and her mother have been given police protection. “A police guard
> > has been posted here. He checks on us at regular intervals,” her mother
> > said.
>
> > Who else will tell the activists/reporters from other areas who may be
> > visiting the place ,
> > that the culprits have no connection with any criminal gang
> > masquerading as political party?
>
> > On Jun 27, 3:55 pm, Sukla Sen <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > The major difference with the Chitralekha case is that the victims here
> > are
> > > Marathi speakers (local) and the attackers Hirdu (outsiders).
> > > The Hindu report looks to be decidedly better.
>
> > > Sukla
>
> > > On 27 June 2010 16:17, venukm <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > It is true that the police registered a case and that is quite good.
> > > > Let us hope that at a later stage the offenders will not ask
> > > > for the sympathies of the politicians and a section of the civil
> > > > society
> > > > by saying like "it all happened due to their bad behaviours".
> > > > The things that had happened to Chithralekha(Kerala) have many things
> > > > in common with this incident!
> > > > I'm afraid there will surely be some concerted efforts to dilute the
> > > > case so that
> > > > the culprit might escape this gruesome "crime of consensus"!
>
> > > > [Please see the file which I'm going to upload: A version of the
> > > >  Wadala(Mumbai) incident that appeared in the  Hindi paper Janta Ka
> > > > Avaz, 26-06-2010].
>
> > > > Best,
> > > > Venu.
>
> > > > On Jun 27, 2:51 pm, Sukla Sen <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > It's actually not "few women". It appears to go well beyond that.
> > Women,
> > > > > running a sort of water mafia, committing atrocities against women,
> > of
> > > > > course with their men duly in aiding and assisting. Apart from caste
> > > > > dimensions, it has also ethnic/linguistic dimensions.
>
> > > > > The saving grace is that the victims have been provided police
> > > > protection.
> > > > > Attackers arrested.
>
> > > > > Sukla
>
> > > > >http://www.thehindu.com/news/article487516.ece
>
> > > > > <http://www.thehindu.com/news/article487516.ece>Dalit woman
> > stripped,
> > > > beaten
> > > > > up in Mumbai slumSTAFF REPORTER
>
> > > > > MUMBAI, June 27, 2010
>
> > > > > Rape of a minor girl triggered the attack
>
> > > > > ‘Neech jaat' (low caste) was a word Kavita (name changed) kept
> > hearing
> > > > when
> > > > > she was being stripped and beaten up. “They beat me with bamboo
> > sticks. I
> > > > > kept saying ‘no.' They ripped off my gown, pulled my hair and dragged
> > me
> > > > out
> > > > > of the house to a nearby shop. Many were filming the act on mobile
> > > > phones.
> > > > > In Hindi, they kept saying, ‘*neech jaat* [low caste], come, take
> > your
> > > > > turn.' Men were beating me too,” Kavita told *The Hindu* on Saturday.
>
> > > > > From a polythene bag, Kavita's mother fished out a clump of hair
> > plucked
> > > > > from the woman's head.
>
> > > > > The shocking incident took place last week in a Mumbai slum, where a
> > > > group
> > > > > of upper caste women assaulted the 22-year-old Scheduled Caste woman.
> > A
> > > > case
> > > > > under the Scheduled Caste and Scheduled Tribe (Prevention of
> > Atrocities)
> > > > Act
> > > > > (POA) has been registered at the Sewree police station. The police
> > have
> > > > > arrested 10 women and two men.
>
> > > > > The arrest of Kavita's brother in a case of the rape of a minor girl
> > > > > triggered the assault. However, deep-seated caste hatred towards the
> > > > family
> > > > > runs a long way back. There are two water pumps in the locality. “The
> > > > main
> > > > > reasons are water and house. Ours is the only Dalit Marathi family in
> > > > this
> > > > > area, and they want to oust us from here,” said her mother.
>
> > > > > “It all began in 2007 when a water pump was sunk here. Sharda Yadav
> > and
> > > > > Mumtaz [residents, now under arrest] would routinely demand money for
> > the
> > > > > water supply. It's a community pump. We refused to pay up. I would
> > fight
> > > > > against these illegal practices all the time. I have complained to
> > the
> > > > > police several times about it. The women would say, ‘These people
> > have
> > > > > gotten too big for their boots. Sticks should be shoved inside them.'
> > > > They
> > > > > have used such abusive words that I cannot even utter them,” she said
> > > > with
> > > > > difficulty.
>
> > > > > “The rape case was just a pretext. Owing to the fights over water,
> > there
> > > > was
> > > > > already much anger [against the family]. So they targeted her
> > [Kavita].
> > > > Her
> > > > > mother was also beaten up. The mother ran to the police, and they
> > called
> > > > the
> > > > > police control room,” Assistant Commissioner of Police Dilip Waghmare
> > > > told*
> > > > > TheHindu* on telephone.
>
> > > > > On the day of the incident, the victim's mother was the first to be
> > > > beaten
> > > > > up. “They had a meeting somewhere. All of them entered together. The
> > > > whole
> > > > > lane was packed with people. After I ran to the police chowky, help
> > > > arrived
> > > > > on time. The molesters were arrested. They were laughing even while
> > being
> > > > > taken away,” Kavita's mother said.
>
> > > > > In 2008, she had written to the police about the death threats her
> > family
> > > > > had received and the harassment her daughter suffered. “As my son was
> > > > here,
> > > > > nobody dared touch us, but when he was arrested, they saw an
> > > > opportunity.”
>
> > > > > The family said Ms. Yadav, who led the attack, was a Shiv Sena
> > worker, a
> > > > > claim Mr. Waghmare has denied.
>
> > > > > None came to the rescue of Kavita, except her neighbour Sayeeda
> > Quazi,
> > > > who
> > > > > put a dupatta around her. Sayeeda's statement has been recorded.
>
> > > > > The entire neighbourhood, meanwhile, is tight-lipped. “Something
> > > > happened,
> > > > > but I was on work,” said a resident. Some said they were away at
> > their
> > > > > native places, or away from home.
>
> > > > > “Basically women were enraged by the rape of a girl. When they went
> > to
> > > > > [Kavita's] house, her mother shot back, saying [it wasn't as if] it
> > had
> > > > > happened to them. Any woman would be enraged by that, won't she?”
> > asked a
> > > > > shopkeeper, who claimed to know nothing of the incident.
>
> > > > > Kavita and her mother have been given police protection. “A police
> > guard
> > > > has
> > > > > been posted here. He checks on us at regular intervals,” her mother
> > said.
> > > > > On 27 June 2010 14:38, Venugopalan K M <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > What is shocking more than the crime itself, is reported complicity
> > of
> > > > > > the crowd which even included few women.
>
> > > > > > This is does not just seem to be a case of atrocity against dalits.
>
> > > > > > It has rather surfaced from the underbellies of a larger
> > > > > > socio-political and cultural millieu
> > > > > > in which institutionalization of crimes against women has come
> > rather
> > > > > > the rule, than  exception. Increasing cases of 'honour killing' and
> > > > > > sex-gender  related cruelties point to that.
>
> > > > > >  Recent protests and struggles by LGBT communities
> > > > > > (gay,lesbian,bisexual and transgenders) in the wake of suicide of a
> > > > > > high profile academic following ostracizing are a case in point.
>
> > > > > >  Defying  the norms of 'decent living' (which incidentally,are
> >  being
> > > > > > pursued by all, though put in place by the upper class/caste male)
> > is
> > > > > > apparently a factor in braving the atrocities and
>
> ...
>
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