'Marx is more applicable than ever '

Turmoil in Arabia, protests in Europe. 2011 is the year of revolutions? On
the occasion of the new edition of his book "The Revolutionary Ideas of Karl
Marx" marx21.de spoke with author Alex Callinicos

marx21.de: Your book has been reprinted in the new VSA-Verlag. Why is it
important in the context of revolutions in the Arab world and the movements
in Spain and Greece, to re-read Marx?
Alex Callinicos: This is important for several reasons. I will mention only
two. The first is that we live in a world dominated more than ever, shaped,
and is increasingly destroyed by capitalism. And who wants to understand
capitalism, must begin with Marx. It offers the most systematic critical
understanding of capitalism and its conflictual and dynamic development.

The second reason is that the capitalism Marx was of course not from a
purely academic perspective, approaches, even though he was an enormously
erudite theoretician. He approaches the capitalism, as Engels said at his
funeral, especially one as revolutionary. And he tries to make his
understanding of capitalism fruitful, to show how the resulting struggle of
the working class as a collective political subject, and how he can lay the
foundation for an entirely different world.

What we see in Spain and Greece and throughout the Arab world, is how people
are looking for ways to transform their societies and to cope with problems
that are caused, ultimately, to capitalism.

Marx is no God, where you can find all the truth, but it is very important
to help people in dealing with their situation.

There is much criticism of the Left in the dependence of Karl Marx by people
who find that their ideas are not applicable to our time. Would you say that
his ideas are still relevant?
I think Marx is a very recent thinkers. His writings are in many ways more
applicable today than at the time when he wrote it. When he wrote the
Communist Manifesto, there were only small islands of industrial capitalism
in northwestern Europe and the eastern coast of the United States. Today,
capitalism is everywhere, as we can see, for example, the transformation in
China.

Marx foresaw that this system conquer the world and it would transform. What
we see today is the flowering of developments, which he identified long ago.
Hence Marx is not outdated thinker, but one who has to tell us a lot today.

Recently you spoke at a panel discussion at the MARX IS MUST-Congress in
Berlin and are received on the question whether the idea of communism is
still relevant today. For all that there could not be there: If the
communist idea for us is still of importance or not?
Well, that obviously depends on what you mean by communism. In the minds of
many people it is synonymous with the regimes in Eastern Europe, in
particular with Germany in the GDR and the Soviet Union. But these regimes
represented a caricature of Marxist ideas dar. For Marx, the notion of
self-emancipation of the working class was absolutely central, that is from
people who free themselves, bring about change from below. In the Stalinist
regimes in Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union was gone, the power to focus
systematically on the top of society.

The current debate over communism is quite another, because it addresses the
question of what could be a real alternative to capitalism. This is a useful
debate, but since it was started by philosophers like Badiou and Žižek, she
is led to a very high level of abstraction.

What I have said in Berlin, among others, is that Marx chose a different
approach. He is known to have defined communism as the real movement for the
abolition of the current state of the world. In other words, who wants to
see emerge as communism is, must look at the actual fighting against
exploitation and for liberation, which are currently being fought in the
world.

A socialist society is not simply an idea in the mind of a philosopher. You
will be won by a long and difficult process of collective disputes. And I
think that this understanding of communism for the present discussion is
very important.

The year 2011 has already been called the year of revolutions. Do you share
this assessment, and if so, what kind of relationship do you see between
these revolutions and the idea of communism?
Yes, as I said in the debate in Berlin, 2011 is the year of revolutions.
There are two levels of relationships between the idea of communism and the
Arab revolution.

First, it is important to understand that the goal of these revolutions was
not easy to get rid of a dictator, but that they are a global response to
neo-liberalism has dug as not only these but many other companies in the
global south. This is done not just by the fact that he moves a very clear
division between rich and poor, but also in that it concentrates wealth and
privilege in the hands of a very small group of lackeys, careerists and
relatives of the dictator. Therefore, in these revolutions, political and
economic issues are very closely connected.

Secondly, we see both in Tunisia and in Egypt the role played by the working
class. A general strike has missed the regime of Ben Ali in Tunisia in
January, the death blow. Next, the wave of strikes in Egypt was instrumental
in ensuring that the White House and the Egyptian generals were forced
Mubarak to sell. The strike wave is continuing, and that is of paramount
importance, because the working class in Marx recognizes the collective
actor that can enforce the overthrow of capitalism and the establishment of
a communist society.

I am not saying that somewhere in the Middle East currently takes place a
communist revolution. We are, I think, just witnessed a very powerful
struggles for democracy, but in the course of these struggles are economic
and social issues such as mass poverty made increasingly clear. And when
that happens, we can see the potential that the masses are moving towards
the overcoming of capitalism and building a different kind of society.

In Tunisia and Egypt and perhaps in other countries will follow, the
revolutions have sought to break the old structures, and it worked. But how
can it be prevented that the old structures like the military to seize power
back against him?
Well, in Egypt and Tunisia, it is clear that the military is in power. Ben
Ali, the military has been forced to flee, and it is in power in Egypt. But
his position is shaky, because it is under enormous pressure from the street
to handle the old regime.

But the military is still in power, and we can see, for example in Egypt, as
it continues the very real oppression. How have these two so in countries
where revolutions were the most successful - in Bahrain, the revolution was
crushed, and Syria is a very bloody battle with an uncertain outcome instead
- to do with revolutionary processes.

In other words, a revolution is not simply a one-time jump from a previous
company to a new, but it is lengthy process of discussions to develop in
which the forces of revolution and can be stronger, but in which the forces
of counterrevolution about struggling to get back on the offensive. We can
see very clearly that in Egypt, where they try to provoke tensions between
Muslims and Christians. The outcome of these processes is so far from being
identified.

What people need to do?
You have to keep fighting. They are under enormous pressure material.
Revolutions are not just good for the economy and the economy was in those
countries already in crisis. The Egyptian government has received a loan
from the International Monetary Fund and one of Saudi Arabia.

But we know that the IMF does not give money for nothing - from the IMF, it
is certainly something for nothing, but its loans are tied to conditions
that exist in the core from the fact that more neoliberal reforms must be
introduced. That's pretty much the strategy of the Obama administration:
using the revolution in order to reach a broad neo-liberal restructuring of
the Middle East.

The masses are therefore under considerable pressure material. And so they
must organize themselves to defend themselves and push through reforms. This
seems to happen by itself, independent trade unions and other social groups
form.

When I was in Egypt a few weeks ago, I heard that out of nowhere a huge
movement of people has formed, appearing confident and for the first time in
the history of the country makes its demands. So we have a whole world of
different fighting moves. They need to be stronger and better organized, and
in the course of this debate and the confrontations with the forces of
counterrevolution, which is the cause, can open up the possibility for a
much deeper radicalization process.

There are many successes and a lot of hope in these revolutions, but also
problems and dangers. Is it possible to be a socialist to be prepared for
such situations?
Now, the debate on MARX IS MUST Shakespeare's Hamlet, I have been quoted as
saying: "The readiness is all" But what it means to be prepared for a
revolution.? No one can predict such events. Lenin was known to be still in
February 1917 shortly before the Russian Revolution, the older generation
will experience the coming revolution is no longer good.

What do socialists have to be, in essence, as strong as possible to build
revolutionary organizations, both through the development of Marxist ideas,
as well as the fact that we translate these ideas into an organization that
is rooted in the struggles of our time. And we can now see the fruits of
that labor in Egypt.

The Revolutionary Socialists in Egypt are a group of Marxists, largely
created under the former dictatorship in the underground. But because they
were part of the movement, which developed over the last ten years - against
the war in Iraq, in solidarity with the Palestinians, for democracy and
especially the labor movement that emerged in 2006 or better reborn - they
were in a position to to play significant role in the fight, which focused
on the Tahrir Square.

To return once more to the revolutionary ideas: What do you think is Karl
Marx's most important idea?
The main idea of Karl Marx is this: The world must not be so, as it is, and
ordinary working people have the power to reshape the world for themselves
and to direct them.

(Interview by Stefanie Graf Translation: David Meienreis)

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foundations of caste will crack and will never be a whole.
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