Mr. Kalam believes that nuclear bombs and missiles are the criteria for 
development .
He is basically a RSS/BJP  scientist . That is how he became president.
He has ideas ( from his books) , but when he formulate these ideas , he never 
think whether these ideas can be materialized or not. He will say that by 2020 
, India will become a super power , but how ? He does not know. He has plenty 
of dreams .. but all are imaginations. If he is a hard working individual, 
there are crores of hard working men in this country ... what is his 
qualification to be called as a great man... nobody knows... but he is a great 
man ... people say.... 







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From: S Gadekar <[email protected]>
Date: 9 November 2011 09:41

Subject: answer to Kalam
To: "S. P. Udayakumar" <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]


Dear Uday,


This is my answer to Kalam's article 
[<http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/article2601471.ece?homepage=true>]. I 
wanted to title it Misguided Missile Shoots Off but have decided not to since 
that might offend some





Dr A P J Abdul Kalam and‭ ‬Mr.‭ ‬Srijan Pal Singh deserve a special thanks for 
the two page article in the Sunday edition of The Hindu‭ (‬November‭ ‬6,‭ 
‬2011‭) ‬entitled‭ ‬“Nuclear power is our gateway to a prosperous future.‭”‬ 
Although most of what they write is irrelevant to their topic and the rest just 
plain wrong,‭ ‬the very fact that the establishment has to bring out its‭ ‬‘Big 
Guns‭’‬ to answer the questions raised by the Koodankulam movement,‭ ‬is a 
testimony to the success of the movement.


Originally I had intended to write a point by point refutation of their 
article,‭ ‬but I have been deterred by the sheer length of the article.‭ ‬What 
I intend to do here instead is to paraphrase their points and answer them one 
by one.‭ ‬I would urge activists to visit the Hindu website at and to read the 
article in the full. I make this request specially so that friends can point 
out if I have been unfair in summarizing their work or have missed something 
important.


Kalam and Singh make the following points:

        Because of its millions of times higher energy density,‎ ‏uranium fuel 
requires much less material handling than coal.

        ‎“‏There is a distinct and categorical correlation between the energy 
consumption and income of a nation‭ ‬-‭ ‬each reinforcing the other.‭”‬

        The electricity demand will have to grow from the current‎ ‏150,000‎ 
‏MW to at least‭ ‬950,000‭ ‬MW by‭ ‬2030‭ ‬for economic growth.‭

‎       ‏The German decision to opt out of nuclear power‭ ‬“suits its current 
scenario which goes beyond mere concerns of risk posed by nuclear power.‭”‬ 
Besides,‭ ‬“Nuclear energy never fit into its goal of energy independence‭”‬ 
since its uranium production was‭ ‬much smaller than required.


        India has huge deposits of Thorium which is considered to be the 
nuclear fuel of the future.‎ ‏Thorium has many advantages over uranium:‭ 
‬produces eight times more energy for the same mass,‭ ‬has a less toxic waste 
stream,‭ ‬is more‭ ‬abundantly available.


        Most prosperous nations extract about‎ ‏30‎ ‏to‭ ‬40‭ ‬percent of their 
power from nuclear.‭ (‬Accompanied by a table of nine countries,‭ ‬the first 
eight top nuclear producers plus India‭ (‬15‭) ‬showing their total nuclear 
capacity,‭ ‬its share in electricity production and their GDP adjusted by PPP.


        The developed world has a habit to‎ ‏“Misguide emerging nations like 
India,‎ ‏which are a potential challenge to their neo-age proxy-imperial 
economic subjugation.‭ ‬What is needed for our India,‭ ‬we‭ ‬Indians have to 
decide.‭”


‎       ‏Solar and wind are the greenest sources of power but despite 
advantages are not reliable due to their dependence on weather conditions.‭ 
‬Nuclear on the other hand is dependable having more than‭ ‬14000‭ ‬reactor 
years of experience and an international presence.‭


‎       ‏A nuclear plant is not a nuclear bomb.‭ ‬Our understanding of nuclear 
disasters and accidents is coloured by our fears regarding destruction caused 
by nuclear weapons.

        While there was a huge loss to property,‎ ‏there was no loss of life 
either during the accident or in the efforts to contain it at Fukushima.‭ ‬A 
lot of progress has been made in nuclear emergency management in the last‭ ‬25‭ 
‬years after Chernobyl.


        Radiation fallout causes no harm to future generations although it does 
increase the cancer risk in the present generation.

        There are opportunity costs of not using nuclear.‎ ‏If nuclear is 
stopped the gap would be filled by using more fossil fuel plants leading to 
increased pollution and global warming.

        Only four major incidents have taken place during the six decades long 
history of nuclear power generation Kyshtym,‎ ‏Three Mile Island,‭ ‬Chernobyl 
and Fukushima.‭ ‬Of these,‭ ‬Kyshtym was due to underdeveloped technology in 
fuel reprocessing,‭ ‬Three Mile Island‭ ‬and Chernobyl were due to human errors 
and Fukushima due to extraordinary natural forces.‭ ‬The occurrence of four 
accidents in six decades does not make a case for abandoning our key energy 
source for the future.‭ ‬All technological progress comes at an incremental 
risk.




Only a few tons of uranium



To get those few tons of uranium one needs to dig thousands of tons of ore 
because the concentration of the uranium in‭ ‬the ore is very small.‭ ‬Uranium 
Corporation of India‭ (‬UCIL‭) ‬claims that it is‭ ‬0.067%‭ ‬at Jaduguda.‭ 
‬However,‭ ‬as shown by me in a paper in Bulletin of Atomic Scientists,‭ ‬this 
claim is erroneous since if true,‭ ‬there should have been no shortage of 
uranium fuel in the country prior to signing of the‭ ‬123‭ ‬agreement.‭ ‬The 
uranium concentration is more likely to be‭ ‬0.03%‭ ‬at best.‭ ‬This means that 
each ton of ore that is dug one can at most get a mere‭ ‬300‭ ‬grammes of 
natural uranium.‭ ‬The rest‭ ‬999.7‭ ‬kg ends up as waste in places around 
Jaduguda where it shall continue to spew radiation for thousands of years and‭ 
‬cause horrific deformities in children.‭




Mythical correlation between energy production and national income



Actually what this means is that the more energy you use,‭ ‬the richer you 
are.‭  ‬It does not matter whether that energy is put to do useful work or just 
frivolously‭ ‬wasted‭;‬ your wealth is assured by the very fact that it is 
produced.‭ ‬In the old days,‭ ‬nucleocrats used to show a straight line graph 
of energy production versus GNP.‭ ‬This held true for many countries till the‭ 
‬“imperial economic subjugation‭”‬ of the Arab lands in the Middle East was 
able to hold oil prices to ridiculously low levels.‭ ‬But after early‭ ‬1970s,‭ 
‬when energy prices began to rise,‭ ‬this correlation broke down as people even 
in the developed countries began to use energy more efficiently.‭ ‬The energy 
consumption fell while the GNP continued to rise.




No sharp rise in electricity demand,‭ ‬no economic growth



This is just a corollary of the earlier point except that Dr Kalam and Singh 
have subtly substituted electricity for energy.‭ ‬Although,‭ ‬electricity is 
one form of energy,‭ ‬it is not a synonym.‭ ‬In India,‭ ‬electricity meets less 
than‭ ‬12%‭ ‬of the total energy needs and in no country is this figure larger 
than‭ ‬30%.‭ ‬Nuclear energy can only produce electricity and is thus in no 
position to meet our total energy requirement of the future.‭ ‬At today‭’‬s 
levels,‭ ‬it can at best address only‭ ‬12%‭ ‬of our energy needs,‭ ‬the rest‭ 
‬88%‭ ‬is met by other sources.‭ ‬The fact that it actually only meets‭ ‬2%‭ 
‬of this‭ ‬12%‭ ‬today,‭ ‬is another story.




The strange case of the German Merkel



I find it rather strange that Germany,‭ ‬no doubt a very rich and energy 
surplus country had just kept seven nuclear power plants going although they 
did not‭ ‬“fit into its goal of energy independence‭”‬ just to have something 
to shut down when Fukushima struck.‭ ‬All the more strange because just a few 
months before,‭ ‬the Angela Merkel government had extended the life of these 
very reactors‭ ‬-‭ ‬a decision they were forced to rescind following large 
public protests after Fukushima.‭ ‬India on the other hand will of course,‭ 
‬never compromise on energy independence,‭ ‬though unfortunately we too produce 
far less uranium than our needs and signed the‭ ‬123‭ ‬treaty and have been so 
active in changing our liability laws.‭




The thorium carrot



The great advantages of thorium and especially our large deposits were well 
known even fifty years ago when Dr Homi Bhabha first formulated the three stage 
nuclear programme.‭ ‬The third stage envisaged‭ ‬large scale utilization of 
thorium deposits within‭ ‬20‭ ‬to‭ ‬25‭ ‬years.‭ ‬Even after‭ ‬fifty years we 
still seem to be at least‭ ‬25‭ ‬years away from being able to‭ ‬realize‭ ‬this 
dream.‭ ‬Neither Americans,‭ ‬or the French,‭ ‬Russians,‭ ‬Canadians,‭ 
‬British,‭ ‬Japanese,‭ ‬etc.‭ ‬seem interested in thorium technology.‭ (‬Why 
should they since it is we who are sitting on the deposits.‭) Secondly thorium 
based electricity costs are likely to be even greater than those based on 
uranium which are already uncompetitive in the marketplace. ‬With nobody to 
buy,‭ ‬beg,‭ ‬borrow or steal from,‭ ‬thorium dreams are likely to remain just 
dreams in the
 foreseeable future.




Prosperous nations rely on nuclear



Although I looked hard at the table provided by The Hindu,‭ ‬the only 
‘prosperous’ countries having‭ ‬more than‭ ‬30%‭ ‬of their electricity coming 
from nuclear were France,‭ ‬Ukraine and South Korea.‭ I was surprised by the 
prosperity of Ukraine. It turned out to be ranked at 102 in the list of 
prosperous nation by GDP (PPP) per capita, although the share of nuclear in its 
electricity is 48%. ‬All the others in the table including US,‭ ‬Japan,‭ 
‬Russia,‭ ‬UK,‭ ‬and‭ ‬Canada‭ ‬had their nuclear share of electricity 
production less than‭ ‬30%.‭ The most ‬prosperous countries by per capita GDP 
were Qatar, Luxembourg, Singapore, Norway, and Brunei, none of which were to‭ 
‬be found anywhere in the table presumably since their nuclear shares are not 
outstanding.‭ ‬Thus,‭ ‬to conclude that‭ ‬most‭ ‬prosperous countries‭ ‬have 
nuclear share of‭ ‬their‭ ‬electricity
 production in the‭ ‬30‭ ‬to‭ ‬40‭ ‬percent range is poetic license.




‎“‏Proxy-imperial economic subjugation‭”



In my youth,‭ ‬there‭ ‬used to be a song,‭ ‬“A spoonful of sugar makes the 
medicine go down‭”‬.‭ ‬In a similar vein I find a spoonful of patriotism is 
helpful in selling otherwise‭ disreputable‬  ideas.‭ ‬In the context‭ 
‬(Koodankulam protests‭) ‬in which the Dr Kalam and Singh  article has been 
written,‭ ‬I find‭ ‬this invocation rather rich,‭ ‬since while foreign 
inspiration for the protest are purely speculation,‭ ‬the fact that the plant‭ 
‬has been made by foreign money‭ ‬and‭ ‬expertise is undeniable.‭ ‬It does not‭ 
‬behove those‭ ‬like the nuclear establishment in India,‭ ‬who have been moving 
heaven and earth to save foreign suppliers from liability, even for‭ ‬willful‭ 
‬negligence to wrap themselves in the flag so‭ ‬blatantly.




Dependability thy name is nuclear



Strange countries like Germany and‭ ‬Denmark‭ ‬find‭ ‬solar and wind‭ 
‬dependable‭ ‬enough‭ ‬despite their‭ ‬intermittent‭ ‬nature and produce 
around‭ ‬20%‭ ‬of their electricity dependably from‭ ‬these‭ ‬‘undependable‭’‬ 
sources,‭ ‬while our rulers,‭ despite ‬our surfeit of Sun,‭ ‬seem to think that 
there is no alternative to nuclear. But even here, just during the last two 
decades, wind has already built capacity one and a half times more than nuclear 
has managed to do with all the mollycoddling ‭ of the last sixty years. ‬Japan 
is currently realizing the true dependability of nuclear since more than a 
third of its reactors are currently out of action following the earthquake and 
tsunami in March. They are likely to remain in this state of limbo, for quite 
some time due to ‘irrational’ public opposition to restarting them.




Nucleophobia



The destructive might of an atom bomb‭ ‬is‭ ‬because of the blast,‭ ‬the heat 
and‭ ‬also‭ ‬due to radiation.‭ ‬This was observed‭ ‬and documented in 
Hiroshima and Nagasaki.‭ ‬While most nuclear reactors will probably not explode 
like a nuclear bomb‭ (‬no bets on fast breeder reactors like the one under 
construction at Kalpakkam‭) ‬the radiation contained within is hundreds of 
times larger‭ ‬than that within a bomb.‭ ‬So the radiation contamination of 
surrounding countryside is hundreds of times larger than that produced by the 
bomb.‭ ‬Hiroshima and Nagasaki are thriving cities today but the area 
surrounding Chernobyl and Fukushima will not permit human habitation for 
centuries.




Nuclear emergency management‭ ‬2.0



The main ‘lesson’ nuclear establishments all over the world learned from 
Chernobyl was that ‘radio-phobia’ is a bigger danger than radiation.‭ Ignorance 
is bliss. ‬Keep the people in ignorance‭ ‬through misinformation.‭ First say 
nothing. Next, if forced to say something give out a very low figure by 
‘mistake’. ‬If your lies are detected, apologize profusely but keep repeating a 
variation of the lie.‭ ‬Increase‭ ‬‘safe‭’‬ radiation limits twenty times.‭ 
‬Whether this management method is‭ ‬‘better‭’‬ or worse only time would tell,‭ 
‬but if‭ ‬it does prove to be the wrong course,‭ ‬then goodbye, Japan.‭ ‬The 
country would have sacrificed its already few young on the alter of‭ 
‬‘better‭’‬ nuclear emergency‭ ‬management.‭ ‬As far as,‭ ‬“Not one person died 
at Fukushima‭”‬ myth,‭ ‬the tsunami has conveniently wiped out the evidence. 
Many keep dying
 doing the cleanup but TEPCO’s mastery of disinformation techniques has 
successfully kept their deaths hidden from the mainstream media.




Radiation‭ ‬does‭ ‬cause great harm to future generations



The radio-nuclides released from catastrophes like Chernobyl and Fukushima like 
caesium-137‭ ‬and strontium-90‭ ‬for instance‭ ‬have long half lives.‭ ‬They 
shall remain in the environment for far longer than one generation.‭ ‬There is 
no doubt that our children and their children will ingest and inhale them and 
suffer the consequences.‭ ‬Even the most die-hard nucleocrats,‭ in ‬the French 
and US nuclear regulatory agencies have accepted the need to move beyond 
Hiroshima Nagasaki data of the RERF for‭ ‬radiation‭ ‬effects.‭ ‬The 
mutagenetic effects of radiation‭ ‬have been known since they‭ ‬were first 
demonstrated by Hermann Muller‭ ‬in‭ ‬1926‭ ‬and‭ that ‬later‭ ‬won him a 
Nobel‭ ‬prize. It is not that genetic effects of radiation are not well known 
and documented. They have just been ignored time and again so that the world 
was not denied the ‘benefits’ of nuclear power.




Opportunity costs of‭ ‬using‭ ‬nuclear



Dr Kalam and‭ ‬Singh have enumerated what they term the opportunity costs of 
not going nuclear.‭ ‬However,‭ ‬they ignore the opportunity costs of going 
nuclear.‭ ‬Even a staunchly pronuclear publication like The Tech, (MIT’s oldest 
and largest technology newspaper) has published an article that admits that by 
any realistic‭ ‬reckoning‭ ‬new nuclear costs are likely to be at least more 
than twice as much as the costs from a new gas fired electricity generation in 
the US and cannot be commercially competitive.‭ ‬For India to follow a sensible 
energy path,‭ ‬the first priority must be to meet the real needs of the poorest 
section of the population. The biggest use of energy in the country is for 
domestic cooking. Electricity has no role to play in this. Heating using 
electricity is extremely inefficient. Since nuclear energy can make only 
electricity, it does not answer to our real energy needs. Even if one ignores 
the 88%
 of our energy requirements which are met by sources other than electricity and 
concentrates on the electricity sector alone, the first priority should be to 
provide electricity to the 400 million people who have no access to it today. 
Nuclear energy due to its inflexibility to follow demand, does not meet this 
need at all. Today, Kerosene has to be subsidized since otherwise a large 
section of the country would be condemned to live in darkness since not 
everybody has access to electric lighting. But Kerosene subsidy implies diesel 
subsidy as well to prevent adulteration which leads to the obscene phenomena of 
diesel luxury cars gobbling up this subsidy ostensibly meant for the poor.  All 
the energy sources used by the rich today  are subsidized while none used by 
the poor are. It is this “Somebody has to pay the price of development but it 
better not be me,” kind of development that people in Koodankulam are 
protesting about.




Only four!



I feel embarrased to point to such eminent personalities that there is a 
mistake in their counting. Even if we confine ourselves to the incidents picked 
by Dr Kalam and Singh, Fukushima daiichi is not just a single reactor. There 
are actually six of them, four of which had explosions, one of them even though 
it had been emptied of fuel long before the tsunami.   Seven major accidents 
(incidents is the classic nukespeak) in just 14000 reactors years means an 
average of a major catastrophic accident every 2000 reactor-years. Since there 
are some 437 operating power reactors in the world, this means that an accident 
on such a scale is likely  every four and a half  years. Seen in this context, 
the safety record of nuclear industry does not seem to be something to be proud 
of.


Dr Kalam and Singh rhetorically ask, “Whether we will allow an accident in a 40 
year old reactor to derail our dreams to be an economically developed nation? I 
shall first only point out that while reactor 1 was indeed 40 years old having 
started in 1971, there were accidents in reactors 2 (1973) and 3 (1974) as well 
and the spent fuel storage area of reactor 4 (1979) also. Secondly, that our 
dreams need to be inclusive of everybody and not just the fat-cats. Thirdly, 
the risky vehicle that they have chosen to turn their dreams into reality is 
likely to turn the dream into a nightmare from hell.





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