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Aug 31, 2012 | 2543 views
India should deprioritise Nuclear Energy
by Lauren Zumbach<http://forbesindia.com/search.php?writer=Lauren%20Zumbach>
MV Ramana tells Forbes India that despite the Indian leadership being
committed to nuclear energy, he is not optimistic about its future in the
country

*MV Ramana
Age:* 45
*Designation:* Researcher at the Nuclear Futures Laboratory and Program in
Science and Global Security at Princeton University’s Woodrow Wilson School
of Public and member of International Panel on Fissile Materials and
Science and Security Board, Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists
*Education:* PhD in Physics, Boston University; IIT-Kanpur;  post-doctoral
fellow, University of Toronto and Center for International Studies, MIT
*Career:* Author of ‘The Power and the Promise: Examining Nuclear Energy in
India’
*Interests:* Food, South India classical music



*
Q. You have a book on India’s nuclear energy prospects coming out this
year. What’s the argument you’re making?
*The book looks at the history of nuclear power in India. The Department of
Energy had made a series of projections for how much nuclear power would
contribute to India’s energy production over the past 60 years. These
projections have not come through. I look at why projects have been
delayed, what are the economics of nuclear power in India, the safety
record and impact on health and the environment. It’s an assessment of how
the nuclear program has fared so far.*

Q. India’s leadership has said it is committed to nuclear energy despite
Fukushima, and has set pretty lofty targets for making nuclear power a
major source of India’s energy: 470 gigawatts by 2050. Do you think they’re
likely to follow through?
*No. The leadership is committed, but that’s been the case since the 1950s.
Every group of leaders has been committed to nuclear power, given it
unlimited budget allocations, and yet it hasn’t happened. There’s no reason
to expect it will happen in the future.

Kudankulam is a good example, and something to learn from. If there is to
be an expansion of nuclear power, there will have to be many new sites and
reactors, which will come at a cost of land and water for other purposes.
Since the 1980s, each new site has met with protest, and it is likely to
become more intense.

Many of the projections of future nuclear capacity are based on a
technology called breeder reactors, which has been pursued by many
countries since the 1950s, and in each it’s been a failure. There is no
reason to expect India will be different. This is an additional reason why
achieving the nuclear power generation goals is unlikely.

The cost of generating nuclear power is higher than other energy sources.
Historically, the nuclear establishment tried to compare itself with coal,
and said that if you set up a power plant far from the coal mines, then you
have to incorporate the cost of transporting coal. Once you do that, you
find that the cost of a nuclear power is equal to that of a coal.

Initially, they said that if a coal mine was 600 km away, then nuclear
plants are comparable in cost. By the 1980s, when the first plants were set
up and generating, they said it would be 800 km. By the 1990s, it was 1,200
km from the coal mines.

In 2005 or so, I looked at a recently commissioned Nuclear plant and a coal
plant and assumed that the coal was coming from 1,400 km away. Nuclear
power still wasn’t competitive. If the challenge is providing not just
power but cheap power, nuclear isn’t the answer.*


Q. After Fukushima, the Indian Atomic Energy Commission chairman said
reactors here are 100 percent safe. Can that be true?
*It’s not a scientifically tenable statement. Heads of nuclear
establishments make this kind of statements all the time, and it’s worse
than propaganda. There are various statements where they say we have to be
confident about safety, and this confidence is something we should instil
in our workers. One of the lessons from people who look at why accidents
take place — not just in nuclear plants but in all systems — is that
organisations that are too confident about safety are more at risk than
those that are aware of risks.*

Q. You’ve said that accidents are inevitable, and happen more often than
risk assessments predict. Why is that?
*You can lower the risk, but you can’t eliminate it. The problem is
two-fold. In the case of India right now, and the US, if the people who run
and regulate plants are confident that accidents will not take place, they
are unlikely to take [safety] measures.

Nuclear power plants are also extremely complex. It’s extremely complicated
to predict all possible failures. In the case of Fukushima, there were
multiple failures, common-cause failures. The bottom line is that in a
power plant there are multiple ways in which accidents can take place, and
when you try to prevent one, you might increase the risk of another. It’s
very difficult to ensure complete safety.*

Q. When we talk about risks, is Fukushima the best comparison? Earthquakes
played a role there, as did the tsunami. Are the risks comparable for India?
*It’s true that in India the chances of an earthquake are much lower than
in Japan. But, if you think about the history of nuclear accidents, the two
accidents before Fukushima were Three Mile Island and Chernobyl. In both
these cases, it was a purely internal cause. It’s the wrong lesson to learn
from Fukushima and focus on tsunamis and earthquakes. They were the
triggers, but you fundamentally have a system that is prone to accidents.
That doesn’t mean you can’t have nuclear power, but the point is you can’t
wish away the possibility of accidents.*

Q. You say it doesn’t mean we can’t have nuclear power. In your opinion,
should we?
*There is an opportunity cost to not pursuing other technology
possibilities. In India, we could have been generating a lot more power
from other sources. Nuclear energy should not be a high priority; it’s time
to deprioritise it to a minimum.

Nuclear power is special because of the potential for accidents. One
implication of this is one should not pursue it without democratic consent,
because it’s something people fear, and, to some extent, for good reason.
We can’t decide on nuclear power before a national discussion or debate on
how to deal with the energy crisis is carried out. *

Q. Are there any signs of this debate taking place?
*The debate isn’t taking place, and one reason for that is the sense of
crisis. When people say we are short of power and need to generate it right
away, it doesn’t give the mental space to carry out this kind of a debate.

Sadly, protests are the way in which this debate is taking place. People
have to take to the streets and block entrances to the plants before they
are heard. Kudankulam is a tragic illustration of how poor the democratic
practices are. These people have opposed the plant from the beginning.
They’ve not had a forum to express their grievances.

The one place where their voices are recorded is in the environmental
impact assessment. Before a project is commissioned, they have to produce
an environmental impact assessment, put it to the public for comment, and,
by law, have a public meeting. The report is supposed to be used in the
decision on whether to go ahead with the plant or not.

In 2007, there was a hearing that I attended, with about 7,000 people.
Almost unanimously they were opposed to the project. What the Ministry of
Environment did is say, ‘The project is fine, we are clearing it, we had
various questions and they have answered all our questions.’ The project
was commissioned without the support of the people. In the one democratic
forum where people could participate, their views were not heard. They have
no option but to go for this massive protest.


This article appeared in Forbes India Magazine of 14 September, 2012







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