‘Any country with a nuclear plant is a bomb factory’
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Dr Helen Caldicott is one of the most articulate and passionate advocates
of citizen action to remedy the nuclear and environmental crises.
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 Published time: November 07, 2013 03:47
[image: AFP Photo / Sergei Supinsky]

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There are countries who are selling nuclear reactors all around the world,
which means they are not only selling cancer and leukemia to the future
generations, but also atomic bombs, anti-nuclear advocate Dr. Helen
Caldicott said in RT’s Google Hangout.

During the hangout, Helen Caldicott, answered a variety of RT readers’
questions on topics, ranging from those of immediate importance, like the
Fukushima crisis, to the prospects of humanity living through the nuclear
age.

*Q:* *Should we all move to Africa in case TEPCO fails to remove the spent
fuel rods?*

*Helen Caldicott:* Number one: this is an impossibility. There are billions
of people in the Northern Hemisphere and what happens is that if there is a
huge release of radiation from Fukushima by accident or by the fuel rods
burning, or a fission reaction taking place, the radiation will circulate
from west to east around the Northern Hemisphere, but as air masses at the
equator, the Northern and Southern Hemisphere air masses do not mix, so
most of the fallout in the air will occur in the Northern Hemisphere. And
it’s a physical impossibility, of course, to move people to the Southern
Hemisphere. Some people might do that, but it’s a terrible situation,
because there’s nothing medical people can do about decontaminating people,
you can’t decontaminate food, you can’t decontaminate the air that people
are breathing.

So we’re facing a potential catastrophe in terms of public health. People
should know, though, that it takes a long time to get cancer after you’ve
inhaled, breathed in or eaten radioactive materials, like, anytime from two
to 80 years. But it is a very serious situation.


‘No food testing in Japan, govt lying to you’

*Q:* *I live in Tokyo and worry about health impact. When it comes to only
cesium, soils here contain 100 becquerels per kilogram of cesium-134 and
137, and about 20 per cent of foods have a few becquerels per kilogram to
10 becquerels per kilogram. Please let me know your opinion on health
impact and the reasons you think so.*

*HC:* First of all, parts of Tokyo are extremely radioactive. They’ve taken
dirt from the streets, moss from the roofs, and dust from vacuum cleaners
inside apartments. And in some cases there are very high measurements of
cesium and strontium and other such elements, literally over a hundred
elements in the fallout apart from cesium-137 and 134. People in Tokyo,
actually, many of them, are at great risk. That’s number one.

[image: Protesters wearing gas masks and white costumes similar to those of
decontamination workers at the crippled Fukushima plant beat drums painted
with radioactive waste symbols during an anti nuclear power demonstration
march in Tokyo (AFP Photo / Kazihiro Nogi)]

Protesters wearing gas masks and white costumes similar to those of
decontamination workers at the crippled Fukushima plant beat drums painted
with radioactive waste symbols during an anti nuclear power demonstration
march in Tokyo (AFP Photo / Kazihiro Nogi)

Number two, it’s very difficult to know what to eat in Japan because you
can’t taste or smell or see radioactive elements in your food. And each
dose of radiation that you get adds to the risk of getting cancer. And as
you eat more and more radioactive food, more radioactivity builds up in
various organs of your body. There is little testing of food in Japan, the
government is lying to you, and they are encouraging the farmers in
Fukushima to grow their food, which is really criminal because there’s a
hell of a lot of fallout on the ground, in Fukushima, and the radiation
concentrates back from the soil into rice, green vegetables, milk, meat,
and the like.

They are even promoting the Fukushima food in Korea when I was there, and
in Taiwan, but also in Tokyo and other places, also in markets in England,
so the situation is very grim. And I think if I lived in Tokyo, I would
move south. And I would be very, very careful about what I eat. I would
only eat food coming from the south of Japan, and I wouldn’t eat any fish
because they are pouring huge amounts of radiation into the Pacific Ocean
every day. And you don’t know which fish are radioactive and which are
not.

*Q:* *Chernobyl happened in 1986, with very radioactive rain over Europe.
40 percent of European area is now covered with radiation.*

*HC:*  40 per cent of the food in Europe is radioactive. I do not buy
European food or Japanese food. Luckily, I live in Australia, but if you
live in America, you need not to eat Japanese or European food because you
don’t know what food is radioactive and what is not. And medically, you
mustn’t eat any radiation in food! And what’s more, Europe will remain
radioactive for hundreds or thousands of years!

And that’s so, too, with Fukushima. And the report of the national Academy
of Sciences in New York about Chernobyl says [that] by now, about over a
million people have died, not only of cancer and leukaemia, but from other
diseases from the radioactive fallout, in Europe, as well as in Ukraine and
Russia. And if you extrapolate that data to Japan, [which is] much more
densely populated, we’re going to see a lot of cancers. Already, in
two-and-a-half years, they’ve diagnosed, or suspectedly diagnosed, 44 cases
of thyroid cancer, and thyroid cancer is extremely rare, one in a million
children get thyroid cancer. So this indicates [that] those children and
everyone else have received extremely high doses of radioactive iodine and
lots of other elements, so that bodes very badly for the future, for the
Japanese people.

*Q:* *We have learnt there were soya plants beginning to grow in Chernobyl.
Why can’t we do genetic studies on them and adopt them in stable food crops
to deal with radioactive exposure in farmlands?*

*HC:* Let me tell you there’s a wonderful scientist called Timothy
Mousseau, who is an evolutionary biologist, who is going into exclusion
zones, very radioactive zones around Chernobyl and Fukushima, to the
detriment of his own health. He is looking at the birds and the insects,
and the wildlife, plants in those areas, and [found], first of all, that
birds he was looking at have smaller than normal brains because developing
brains are very sensitive to the effects of radiation. Many of the male
birds are sterile which means that they will die out. They are covered with
mutations, they have crooked tails, crooked wings, white patches on them.
Many of them have cataracts in their eyes.

[image: A plastic doll is pictured at a kindergarden in the ghost town of
Pripyat April 4, 2011. (AFP Photo / Sergei Supinsky)]

A plastic doll is pictured at a kindergarden in the ghost town of Pripyat
April 4, 2011. (AFP Photo / Sergei Supinsky)

And what happens to animals, happens to humans, because we test all our
drugs and medicine on animals before we give them to humans, so what we’re
seeing in the animals which reproduce very fast and in which we watch
generations and generations, is what will happen in humans.

There are 6,000 genetic diseases we now know of, including cystic fibrosis,
diabetes, hemochromatosis, dwarfism, I could go on and on. And all of those
diseases are going to increase in frequency down the time span because of
radioactive pollution. It’s an absolutely wicked, wicked industry, which
kills people.

And the other thing you need to know is that any country that has a nuclear
plant has a bomb factory. Nuclear reactors manufacture 250kg, or 500lbs, of
plutonium a year. Plutonium has a half-life of 24,400 years. It lasts for
at least a quarter of a million years.  You only need five kilos or 10
pounds to make an atomic bomb. So fundamentally, if you’ve got 500lbs of
plutonium, you need 10lbs for the bomb, you can make 50 atomic bombs every
year. America and Japan, and South Korea, are selling nuclear reactors all
around the world.

So not only are we selling cancer and leukemia to the future generations,
but they’re selling atomic bombs. That causes the proliferation of nuclear
weapons and increases the threat of nuclear war.

*Q:* *I feel like I’m dead already, and agree that it is too late for me,
but perhaps I can still do something good for my children and hopefully for
grandchildren, so count on me, let’s clean the mess.*

*HC:* Excellent! So what I would say to you, whichever country you live in:
you close down all your nuclear power plants. America’s got over a hundred
operating. They must all be closed down. I don’t care what the laws say:
laws are written to protect corporations, not people. And you can’t tell me
the power of the people isn’t greater than the power of corporations – if
you love your children and your grandchildren, take it upon yourself to
shut down your local nuclear power plant.
‘We’re living with impending catastrophe every day’

*Q:* *Do you see faster progress on the construction of fusion reactors?*

*HC:* No, fusion reactors are a dream for the physicists, they haven’t been
able to construct a fusion reactor, I think that will never happen. But as
Einstein said, the answers to today’s problems will not be produced by the
same technology that caused them. We’ve got to change the way we think. And
what Einstein said - the splitting of the atom changed everything, all
reality, save man’s mode of thinking. Thus, we drift towards unparalleled
catastrophe. He was right so many years ago - why do we keep doing it? Are
we really lemmings rushing towards the cliff of the nuclear annihilation
and global warming? Do we have the emotional intelligence to change the way
we think, and decide to save this beautiful planet of ours and probably the
only life in the universe? This is a very deep, and spiritual, and
religious question for those who are religious.

*Q:* *We’ve been hearing about the White House meetings with the Japanese
and TEPCO keen to help with the clean-up. Is this true? Do you know and
have you heard of it?*

*HC:* Yes, I do know that Secretary of Energy Ernest Moniz has just been to
Japan and visited Fukushima for the first time. It’s taken him a long time
to get there, and he was terribly shocked. And he said that the Department
of Energy would help, but I know that TEPCO is about – in the next few days
– to start removing the spent fuel rods from the cooling pool. And two
things could happen: a rod could break and release a lot of radiation and
the workers will have to evacuate the whole of the Fukushima complex.
That’s terribly serious because they are there every day to keep things
going. Or two rods could touch each other in this process which has been
done before, and there could be a fission reaction and a very large release
of radiation. So I don’t know what the plans are, they haven’t enunciated
them.

[image: Visiting US Secretary of Energy Ernest Moniz (R) is welcomed by
Japanese Foreign Minister Fumio Kishida at the latter's audience room in
the foreign ministry in Tokyo on October 31, 2013. (AFP Photo / Kazuhiro
Nogi)]

Visiting US Secretary of Energy Ernest Moniz (R) is welcomed by Japanese
Foreign Minister Fumio Kishida at the latter's audience room in the foreign
ministry in Tokyo on October 31, 2013. (AFP Photo / Kazuhiro Nogi)

*Q:* *What would you not hesitate to eat along the Pacific Coast in North
America?*

*HC:* I don’t think I’d eat fish along the West Coast of North America. I
think the food is pretty safe at the moment. I mean, that’s a guess. You
should make sure that your government, state and federal, are testing your
food, so you know what’s safe and what’s not. I think at the moment it’s
probably relatively safe, but as I said, we’re facing possible catastrophe.
It’s going to take them 14 months to remove those spent fuel rods from
Reactor 4 cooling pool. We’re living with impending catastrophe every day.

*Q:* *Nuclear is the only option if you want clear skies. Nuclear is big in
Europe. If you don’t want nuclear, you must have dirty coal-powered
stations, there’s no free choice…*

*HC:* That’s not true! If you download the study called
‘Carbon-Free, Nuclear-Free’ from the internet, the study that I
commissioned and organized several years ago with a brilliant physicist
called Arjun Makhijani, it shows that all energy for Europe and for
America, for every country, can be now supplied by renewable energy.

Each day renewable energy gets cheaper and cheaper; cheaper by far than
nuclear. We mustn’t burn coal, you’re absolutely right, but for God’s sake,
why don’t the countries of the world stop subsidizing nuclear, stop
subsidizing fossil fuels, and cover every house with solar panels, solar
hot water system, solar thermal systems like they’ve constructed in Spain,
windmills? I’ve just been in Germany and Austria, and lots of farmhouses
are now covered with solar panels. Germany is moving fast with renewables.
[As for] Denmark, 40 percent of its electricity comes from wind.





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