One can very well raise questions about India's inability to get (any) others on board on this issue. But it's just a canard that the stand of the Modi government this time is a departure from that of the UPA II.
Even at Bali, Anand Sharma fought long and hard to the very last, on the issue of subsidy linked to food security, and steadfastly refused to give in. At the same time, he also avoided being painted as the (sole) deal-breaker. So eventually a compromise was arrived at. (Many of the Indian NGOs present at the site were fervently working towards and hoping for the *collapse*. So they were quite bitter about the final outcome. And, reacted likewise.) "Negotiations on *agriculture, *more specifically on food-stock holding*,* presented the main action in Bali. There were two viewpoints on the price benchmark for the valuation of the volume of food stocks countries can legally hold. India’s position was to use current prices, which would mean amending the agriculture agreement of the Uruguay Round <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wto.org%2Fenglish%2Fthewto_e%2Fwhatis_e%2Ftif_e%2Ffact5_e.htm&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHgxKQervU6yUTcmMhrV84GbBhlAQ> and would not be acceptable to other members. Alternatively, India proposed an interim arrangement until a more permanent solution is found. Here,* the United States proposed a ‘sunset clause’ of four years – a time-line that India did not accept*. A final deal was struck to have an interim mechanism <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fmc9.wto.org%2Fsystem%2Ffiles%2Fdocuments%2Fw10_1.pdf&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNH5Wfafd0_n4SkTRFhZFrC4Tu0KWQ> until a permanent solution is found, *which means that more negotiation is still required to find a permanent solution* (emphases added)." [Source: < http://www.odi.org.uk/opinion/8056-wto-bali-declaration-least-development-countries-trade-facilitation-agriculture-doha-round <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.odi.org.uk%2Fopinion%2F8056-wto-bali-declaration-least-development-countries-trade-facilitation-agriculture-doha-round&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHP78qdS5MlA43jjDo46dbAbuTChw> >.] (I was, btw, one of those many who were keenly monitoring things from afar, to the extent possible.) This time, Nirmala Sitharaman took off exactly from where Anand Sharma had left off. The surprising, and frustrating for some, element is that she chose to do so instead of noiselessly (and, of course, meekly) giving in (by effectively accepting the *sunset* clause which had been rejected by Sharma). Btw, there is nothing on record to show that Indian team did not discuss things with others. That's just a figment of (fertile and, obviously, biased) imagination. (I'm ready to stand corrected on production of any evidence to the contrary.) Sukla On 29 July 2014 06:27, Mohammad Imran <[email protected]> wrote: > I raised the point that Modi government should have discussed the issue > with other friendly governments and brought them to its point of view > before raising it in the meeting. It has raised the point alone leaving > them befuddled as to what India is doing - is it with them or against them. > This is one of the many points under discussion. From my point of view the > western subsidies to their farmers are much bigger issue as they are not > counted in the way they are presented to the WTO. American grain subsidies > in the order of 13 billion dollars are discounted and shown much less. The > same is true fro cotton subsidies. > > Since all these points are connected Modi should get consensus rather take > aim and shoot. > > > On Jul 28, 2014, at 1:48 AM, Sukla Sen wrote: > > > "India’s stockpiling of food grains has led to questions from a few > > other grain exporters as they feel there is an implicit subsidy in the > > way India goes about it. As India is a large exporter of wheat and > > rice, other countries feel it hurts their farmers. > > "India got others to agree to a “peace clause” of four years, during > > which no one would formally raise disputes. In the interim, all > > countries would find a permanent solution to the problem." > > "At this point, for Narendra Modi government to go back and insist > > that both TFA and public stockholding should be seen as a linked deal > > is tantamount to a retrospective approach. Apparently, this is because > > India does not trust other WTO members to show a sense of urgency in > > dealing with the food grain stockpiling issue." > > > > We must NOT bark up the wrong tree. > > As per the understanding reached at Bali a "permanent solution" > > (acceptable to all the parties involved) is to be found within four > > years and in the interim the present practice cannot be objected to. > > The TFA will come into force after that. > > Evidently, the TFA and the "permanent solution" are inter-linked. You > > just can't have the former without having achieved the latter. > > The Indian stand here is perfectly OK. > > > > Just because the corporates run media, who're utterly disinterested in > > the issue of food security for the millions, are railing against the > > stand taken does not mean that we'll have to mindlessly mimic them. > > Rather it's our job to ensure that the Modi government does not step > > back under external and internal pressures. > > > > Sukla > > > > On 28/07/2014, Ghulam Mohiyuddin <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Modi government takes India backward at WTO, this will hurt the country > >> < > http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cash-flow/modi-government-takes-india-backward-at-wto-this-will-hurt-the-country/ > > > >> > >> > >> > http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cash-flow/modi-government-takes-india-backward-at-wto-this-will-hurt-the-country/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Mohammad Imran <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >>> GT: It may be a ploy to please the farmers without doing anything for > >>> them. > >>> > >>> On Jul 27, 2014, at 2:42 AM, GT Verghese wrote: > >>> > >>> Kareem: I get your point. As far as I am concerned if something good > for > >>> the nation's poverty stricken farmers comes from the Devil itself, I > >>> would > >>> not have the slightest hesitation in accepting it. Unlike you, I would > >>> prefer not to see the colour of money if its beneficiaries are the > >>> poorest > >>> of the poor. GT. > >>> On Jul 27, 2014 12:01 PM, "Kareem Sait" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Farmers interest that's a joke , by trying to do away with Nrega, > >>>> amending the recently introduced land acquisition bill etc. One can go > >>>> and > >>>> shout on the top of a mountain knowing nobody will hear just for > >>>> audiences > >>>> back home ,that is politics and trying to hijack the earlier goodwork > >>>> done > >>>> ,and for people who appreciate such gimmicks I wouldn't call it petty > >>>> minded ness but would reserve my comments . > >>>> > >>>> Kareem > >>>> > >>>> On Sunday, July 27, 2014, GT Verghese <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I think India's stand at WTO was keeping with the interests of its > >>>>> farmers and to fhind fault with the quality of its interactions > smacks > >>>>> of > >>>>> sheer pettymindedness. 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India had argued that there can't be a permanent cap on > >>>>>> procurement price as annual inflation must be adequately reflected > in > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> higher procurement price. If annual inflation is factored in > >>>>>> adequately, > >>>>>> then India's procurement price is justified and well within WTO > >>>>>> bounds. > >>>>>> India had made this argument in Bali and even had the sympathy and > >>>>>> support of the larger grouping of G-33 nations. Based on this > argument > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> West, led by the United States, agreed to find a permanent solution > to > >>>>>> this > >>>>>> problem in the next four years before the next WTO ministerial > >>>>>> meeting. > >>>>>> This was discussed by the UPA government in Parliament in the > presence > >>>>>> of > >>>>>> opposition members like Arun Jaitley. The BJP agreed to the > >>>>>> formulation > >>>>>> that we can go ahead and sign the trade facilitation agreement if > India > >>>>>> is > >>>>>> allowed to continue with its food procurement programme till a > >>>>>> permanent > >>>>>> solution is found by the next ministerial meeting on how price paid > to > >>>>>> farmers for procurement is fairly determined. > >>>>>> However, the NDA government is seeking to bring about a substantive > >>>>>> change in that position by arguing India will sign the trade > >>>>>> facilitation > >>>>>> agreement only if a permanent solution to food procurement is > >>>>>> institutionally initiated simultaneously. Since this is a somewhat > new > >>>>>> formulation, India's erstwhile friends among the big developing > >>>>>> economies > >>>>>> like China, Indonesia and Africa have moved away from us. > >>>>>> [image: PM Narendra Modi in this file photo. AFP] > >>>>>> PM Narendra Modi in this file photo. AFP > >>>>>> The commerce minister Nirmala Sitharam had some unpleasant exchanges > >>>>>> with the G-20 Chiarman in Australia last week who was summarising > the > >>>>>> collective position of various countries on the trade facilitation > >>>>>> agreement. The Commerce Minister is believed to have briefed Modi on > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> matter after her return. Simultaneously India's ambassador at the > WTO > >>>>>> secretariat in Geneva has also taken the stand that trade > facilitation > >>>>>> agreement must be notified simultaneously with the announcement of > an > >>>>>> institutionalised framework to solve the procurement price issue. > >>>>>> Basically, the Modi government now seems to indicate that India > can't > >>>>>> wait for four years till the next ministerial meeting and wants some > >>>>>> concrete assurance now. > >>>>>> This change of stand compared to what the UPA had proposed last > >>>>>> December has somewhat isolated India globally. But BJP can sharpen > its > >>>>>> domestic political rhetoric saying it was acting in the interest of > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> farmers. > >>>>>> Actually, Modi's explicit promise to Indian farmers in public > >>>>>> meetings > >>>>>> that the government would ensure a 50 percent profit margin to them > >>>>>> over > >>>>>> their total costs could be one reason why India is hardening its > >>>>>> position > >>>>>> at the WTO. The Sangh Parivar could also have intervened to ask Modi > >>>>>> not to > >>>>>> make any commitment at the WTO at this moment. > >>>>>> Interestingly, Pakistan also had a massive food procurement > programme > >>>>>> but it pays cash subsidy to farmers. Cash payment is allowed under > the > >>>>>> WTO > >>>>>> rules because it doesn't interfere with the market price mechanism. > The > >>>>>> NDA > >>>>>> can also use cash transfer as a possible bargaining lever at a later > >>>>>> stage. > >>>>>> This could be another reason why Modi has reiterated his commitment > to > >>>>>> cash > >>>>>> transfer as a form of paying subsidy. > >>>>>> *The author is Executive Editor at the Amar Ujala Publications > Group* > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>>> Groups "Progressive interactions" group. > >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send > >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. > >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to > >>>>>> [email protected]. > >>>>>> Visit this group at > >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/progressive-interactions. > >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>> Groups "Progressive interactions" group. > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send > >>>>> an email to [email protected]. > >>>>> To post to this group, send email to > >>>>> [email protected]. > >>>>> Visit this group at > >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/progressive-interactions. > >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups > >>>> "Progressive interactions" group. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > >>>> an > >>>> email to [email protected]. > >>>> To post to this group, send email to > >>>> [email protected]. > >>>> Visit this group at > >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/progressive-interactions. > >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >>>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >>> "Progressive interactions" group. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > >>> email to [email protected]. > >>> To post to this group, send email to > >>> [email protected]. > >>> Visit this group at > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/progressive-interactions. > >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >>> "Progressive interactions" group. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > >>> email to [email protected]. > >>> To post to this group, send email to > >>> [email protected]. > >>> Visit this group at > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/progressive-interactions. > >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "Progressive interactions" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > >> email to [email protected]. > >> To post to this group, send email to > >> [email protected]. > >> Visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/progressive-interactions. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > >> > > > > > > -- > > Peace Is Doable > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Progressive interactions" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected]. > > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > > Visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/progressive-interactions. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Progressive interactions" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > Visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/progressive-interactions. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Peace Is Doable -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. 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