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Real people are censored, the anonymous say what they want: Sanjay Subrahmanyam

Sagarika Ghose,TNN | Dec 20, 2015, 12.00 AM IST

Sanjay Subrahmanyam has been called India's best historian. Author of
highly acclaimed works like 'The Career and Legend of Vasco da Gama',
he writes on the early modern period and has always steered clear of
being bracketed with either leftist or rightwing scholars. He tells
TOI that the professional historian is no longer safe in India.

Why did you call your latest book, 'Is "Indian Civilisation" a Myth?'

It's interesting that on Amazon a number of people who haven't even
read the book have been ranting simply against the title, citing the
achievements of ancient Indian metallurgy! For me, the word
'civilisation' can be problematic. It allows some people to lord it
over others, claiming they alone have 'civilisation'. The only areas
really allowed to have a civilisation, it seems, are Europe or the
'West', the Islamic world, India and China. There is a hierarchy
between those allowed to have a civilisation and those who aren't. For
example, what about the idea of African or Southeast Asian
civilisations? Also, the word civilisation usually implies values
frozen in time, and it's a word which can be used to shut out other
people, such as shutting out Muslims from Europe by claiming they are
from another civilisation. Culture to me is a far more flexible word,
allowing for change. Civilisation is often used as a weapon, as a
stick to beat others with.

Is history being used in India today for political purposes?

In several countries a critical approach to history is integrated into
education. Students are trained to think critically about history.
That doesn't happen much here. History for some is almost a belief, a
faith, like a religion, in a set of 'facts'. The professional
historian thus finds himself up against this 'religious' approach to
history. There is of course always a tension between history and
memory but today in India there is an aggressive attempt to deny the
professional historian and his/her practice any space. The
professional historian is simply not safe in this institutional
setting. You can't for example portray Tipu Sultan as a complex
figure, or state easily that one needs to look at the eclectic figure
that Aurangzeb was in his early years, with ties for example to a
Gorakhnathi math. Or that many Hindus served in high positions in
Aurangzeb's administration.

When you see what happened to Wendy Doniger's book, are you worried
about the fate of intellectuals today?

As far as Doniger is concerned, it's the usual love-hate relationship
Indians have with foreigners. Wendy is pilloried but another far less
credible foreigner David Frawley is worshipped. But today even being
Indian is not enough protection. There is no guarantee that anyone's
work won't be pulled and pulped. There is no guarantee of any
protection for anyone writing a serious work or making a serious
argument. The publishers are very scared, and they have caved in.

How do you react to historian Ramachandra Guha's recent statement that
this is the most anti-intellectual government India has ever had?

The BJP has always had an intellectual deficit. Their best
intellectuals are apparently Arun Shourie and Madhu Kishwar. That's
about as good as they get. The present ICHR chief has no credibility
among professional historians, but if they could have got somebody
better maybe they would have. They're scraping the bottom of the
barrel when it comes to intellectuals. They don't even have good
Sanskritists. They've built a small base among economists though, and
maybe some scientists. The issue also is, has the BJP-RSS become
'normalised' and more pragmatic with the experience of power. Maybe in
economic policy they have; there is pragmatism in, for example, having
Raghuram Rajan as RBI governor. But on culture the lunatic fringe
still calls the shots. So they have this curious juxtaposition of
Bhagwat and Bhagwati, as Pranab Bardhan puts it.

Is this government failing to protect Indian pluralism?

In India the Muslim population is depressed; on many social indicators
they are under the national average and yet they are supposed to be
the problem. The real question is, what do the BJP and RSS want to do
with India's Muslims (or Christians), what do they imagine the
long-term prospects of minorities are in India? I think there should
be a debate on this, and that they should come clean. The RSS perhaps
wants to wipe the slate clean and send all Muslims to Pakistan. But
what is the BJP's long-term policy towards Muslims, beyond simply the
rage? What do they want Muslims to do? Wear a distinctive mark on
their foreheads proclaiming they are second-class citizens? I don't
think the Sangh Parivar overall knows what it wants on Muslims, beyond
simply knowing that they are angry about them.

Does the Indian public discourse today worry you?

You know Indians are known to be the most abusive users of the
internet. Indian trolling is known widely to be highly vitriolic. Yet
today if there is an authoritative work, say on Shivaji, Golwalkar or
Annadurai written by a real historian, that work might well be
censored. So there's a very interesting paradox. Those who are real
people, with real emails and real names are totally censored, those
who are anonymous are empowered to say whatever they want. Anonymous
people are free to scream out their rage but real people with a name
are told to say nothing. This to me is another post-modern paradox of
authorship. Real people have the right to say nothing, anonymous
people have a right to say everything. So we are becoming a society of
cowards. It's a terrifying idea.

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