Still valiantly fighting for a lost cause? Modi is, of course, vice personified. The EC is his under his thumb. So is the legal framework -- to a very large extent. He'd use the paramilitary to the maximum extent possible, with the active backing of the EC -- as had been done during the last West Bengal state poll. And the MSM would play its tune.
*That's precisely how "back to ballots!" is utterly stupid and suicidal too.* Here, things, in the past, were manipulated at the points of polling and, on fewer occasions, at the points of counting too -- by employing sheer (localised) physical terror. As far as the (Indian) EVM is concerned, Modi has not been able to hack as yet. At least, there's no hard evidence -- just none -- to the contrary. Of course, one has to constantly keep a hawk's eye. No question about that. Also look up: < https://groups.google.com/g/greenyouth/c/25avW9jdbi4/m/Mq0ztRDFBAAJ>. On Thu, May 25, 2023, 08:29 Satinath Choudhary <satic...@gmail.com> wrote: > There are two more things that I wanted to mention: > (A) Any rudimentary student student of computer science will tell you > that it should be easy to make the computer control unit toggle between two > modes, with the help secret code to be communicated via one of several ways > of electronic communication: (1) Normal mode, and (2) abnormal mode. In the > normal mode it will work perfectly normally, and there would be no way to > find out that it can work in an abnormal way too. In the abnormal way, the > control unit can do anything the software designer wants it to do. For > example, take half of the vote counts in each candidate's vote count bin, > and transfer the same to the preferred candidate's bin. After the counts in > various bins have been read and announced, all of the original counts may > be restored to the original counts. > > Without going into details, Sam Pitroda too essentially said that these > machines can be made to play all kinds of tricks, in the following video: > > <<< London में Rahul Gandhi की स्पीच और Sam Pitroda का जबरदस्त प्लान || > Rahul Gandhi || Congress (a couple of days ago) > > https://youtu.be/R4DAN7Ryc3U >>> > > (B) Now, the second question is that if our apprehension regarding > possibility of producing and distributing rigged EVMs can be accomplished, > is Modi such a paragon of morality and virtuous person, who will refrain > from getting such rogue software installed on each and every EVM? If the > answer is no, why not scribble a written request to the Chief of ECI > requesting disbanding of EVMs and reverting back to age-old ballot boxes + > paper ballots, and hand counting? I had even written an email that could be > amended, corrected, or remodelled, and send the same, with suitable > modifications, to the ECI and other European countries. > > That's all, at this time. > -Satinath > ====== > > > > On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 5:32 PM Satinath Choudhary <satic...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Dear Devasahayam jee, >> >> Thanks a lot for this succinct and wise counsel to people involved in >> "Socialist Party (India)": <<< I am afraid you are trying to bite much >> more than you can chew...">>> >> >> If I may add, most of the people in social media seem to be euphoric >> about defeating the monster in Karnataka, and internally feeling >> relieved that this election was not stolen with the help of EVM. Some will >> even cite this defeat of the monster as a proof of the fact that any doubt >> about the veracity of EVM is baseless; that this EVM designed by >> "trustworthy wizards" can not be rigged. >> >> They overlook the fact that all of the current EVMs may already have been >> rigged so that the rogues can selectively manipulate the counts displayed >> when and where it is desired to do so by those who have the secret code to >> be transmitted to the EVMs via momentary electronic signals. >> >> They also forget that such a master-manipulable EVM (Brahmastra) would >> not be used in each and every election, lest it will be obvious that EVMs >> are being manipulated. In particular, they would like to lose some >> elections here and there, so that people keep faith in our EVMs. >> >> It may well be possible that Pulwama was a false-flag operation, "pulled" >> as a multi-purpose trick: (1) To harvest votes of a large number of >> blind-folded nationalist desh-bhakts. (2) Even those who might have >> suspected something fishy (but could not say such a thing out of fear they >> would branded as desh-drohi), would get busy in debating strenuous things >> like (a) evaluating electoral damage to the opposition parties because of >> Pulwama-Balkot episode, (b) popularity of Modi, as displayed in the huge >> electoral mandate, and so forth. >> >> Just imagine what would happen if and when after the election of 2024, >> Modi wins the election with even bigger numbers than the numbers spilled >> out of the EVMs in 2019, with the godi-media (I do not know if there are >> any non-godi-media) predicting an even bigger mandate than 2019. People >> will just be paralyzed out of "shock and awe" (please excuse me for using >> the lexicon of the American neocons). Nobody'll dare express any doubt and >> say anything against the current and future ruler of the country, with >> ED+CBI+IT+local police (and army, ready to be deployed, if needed,) ready >> to blow heads away. Anyone expressing any doubt about the veracity about >> EVM will be dismissed as sour grapes, as no such doubt was expressed when >> BJP lost in Karnataka and other undetermined elections that followed. >> >> It is my firm belief that rigged EVMs were used in 2019 to benefit BJP, >> and will be used again in 2023, if we let them. >> >> It is more important for the opposition to demand disbanding EVM use for >> all elections hereafter right away (backed with the threat of boycotting >> any future election,) than trying to hash out seat adjustments >> right now, in as much as this hashing out too is extremely important. >> Needless to say, this godi-ECI will not agree, then we have to try our luck >> at the door of Justice Chandrachud sahab and his constitutional bench. If >> we can't get favorable judgment, we will have to follow up with the >> mass-ghero of the ECI premise + relay fasting, and all of the persevierance >> that the kisan-andolan showed. >> >> If our political parties do not do it now, it will be too late. This is >> where a party like SP-I can make a name for itself. The name of SP-I will >> get imprinted on crores of minds by taking lead in opposition to EVMs. >> >> -Satinath >> ====== >> >> >> On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 8:08 AM Devasahayam MG <deva1...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I am afraid you are trying to bite much more than you can chew... As I >>> have been saying we have only a short time and limited resources... And we >>> should attempt what is doable... Concentrate on ensuring free and fair >>> election wherein people's mandate cannot be stolen by the monsters... >>> People will take care of the rest. >>> >>> MGD >>> >>> On Sun, 21 May, 2023, 12:19 pm 'Sandeep Pandey' via Socialist Party >>> (India), <socialist-party-in...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >>>> The 2024 parliamentary elections are now only a few months away. Big >>>> anti-Modi faces are performing the ritual of opposition to Modi. They are >>>> speaking under the grave fear on anti peoples acts of Modi. These >>>> politicians are not able to form an organized and systematic alliance due >>>> to their personal interests. They are going to repeat the same mistake that >>>> the power-hungry leaders made in 1977 after the Jai Prakash movement. >>>> Therefore, the below signatory apeallent and some of you, who are called >>>> anonymous, would no longer want to watch these elections as silent >>>> spectators. We must be an interventionist in the upcoming elections. >>>> 2024 के संसदीय चुनाव अब केवल कुछ महीने दूर हैं। बड़े बड़े मोदी विरोधी >>>> चेहरे डरे-सहमे मोदी के जन विरोधी कामों की सूची >>>> <https://www.votersparty.in/atrocities-committed-by-modi-on-the-people/> >>>> बताकर >>>> मोदी विरोध की रस्म निभा रहे है. ये लोग अपने निजी स्वार्थ के कारण एक >>>> व्यवस्थित गठबंधन नहीं बना पा रहे है. ये लोग फिर वही गलती दोहराने जा रहे है >>>> जो गलती जय प्रकाश आन्दोलन के बाद सत्ता लोभी नेताओं ने सं 1977 में किया था. >>>> इसलिए गुमनाम कहे जाने वाले अधोहस्ताक्षरी अपीलकर्ताओं और आप में से कुछ लोग >>>> अब मूकदर्शक बनकर इन चुनाव को नहीं देखना चाहेंगे. आगामी चुनावों में >>>> हस्तक्षेपकर्ता बनगे। >>>> Please copy the text given below and send it to adequate persons via >>>> watsApp message >>>> *Join the alliance, if you wish to oust Modi in 2024. यदि 2024 में आप >>>> मोदी सरकार को हटाना चाहते हैं तो इस गठबंधन से जुड़े। * 👇Share maximum >>>> please.🙏 >>>> https://www.votersparty.in/join-opposition-constitution-assembly/ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Socialist Party (India) >>>> >>>> Website: spi.org.in. >>>> Facebook: facebook.com/socialistpartyindia >>>> Twitter: twitter.com/spiinfo >>>> Email: socialistpartyin...@gmail.com >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Socialist Party (India)" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to socialist-party-india+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/socialist-party-india/295016652.435728.1684651773526%40mail.yahoo.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/socialist-party-india/295016652.435728.1684651773526%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >>> Socialist Party (India) >>> >>> Website: spi.org.in. >>> Facebook: facebook.com/socialistpartyindia >>> Twitter: twitter.com/spiinfo >>> Email: socialistpartyin...@gmail.com >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Socialist Party (India)" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to socialist-party-india+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/socialist-party-india/CAB_Uz5G0emQiqjVWmLLK2EoMGTtF2nQY3pwON-JBDp04Exwrpg%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/socialist-party-india/CAB_Uz5G0emQiqjVWmLLK2EoMGTtF2nQY3pwON-JBDp04Exwrpg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > Socialist Party (India) > > Website: spi.org.in. > Facebook: facebook.com/socialistpartyindia > Twitter: twitter.com/spiinfo > Email: socialistpartyin...@gmail.com > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Socialist Party (India)" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to socialist-party-india+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/socialist-party-india/CAFQoZO-EFEHWg%3D-tHCL2sT5AZn_51sqpXfn9Y339aHpaEaYVMA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/socialist-party-india/CAFQoZO-EFEHWg%3D-tHCL2sT5AZn_51sqpXfn9Y339aHpaEaYVMA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. 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