*A* *relevant exchange.* Dear XXX,
Thanks for responding. My initiating post under this this thread had put it thus: "Of course, the EVM is just no answer to violence. But, it *restricts* (terror-enabled) false voting in a very big way." [Emphasis in original.] Let me restate and elaborate. 1. EVM *restricts* the scope of *chhappa* voting. In a rather big way. It, to be sure, *doesn't completely eliminate.* 2. It makes tampering at the counting table *almost* impossible. 3. There's of course the *legitimate* apprehension of technology-enabled rigging. *As* *yet, there's no tangible evidence of that actually happening, *beyond hearsays and some loose *unregistered* allegations [and of course assumptions and presumptions]. More importantly, the poll outcomes of West Bengal and Karnataka -- the latter having a "double-engine government" -- the two by far the most bitterly fought assembly polls since the last general election, strongly suggest otherwise. 4. However, technology keeps constantly evolving. Hence one must keep a hawk's eye on the scenario. *There're both technological and administrative safeguards/hurdles built in the system. One must ensure that these are not curtailed or somehow bypassed or leapt over*. Right now, as per the latest SC order, VVPAT slips from 5 EVMs per assembly constituency are to be cross-tallied with the results from the EVMs. A very sensible demand would be to raise that number. The current EC -- perceived to be an extended arm of the executive -- is, of course, not going to oblige. The only hope, *if* *at all any*, is the Supreme Court. *Conclusion* *The West Bengal Panchayat Poll decisively demonstrates that, under the obtaining circumstances, the demand of "back to ballot boxes" would be utterly stupid and suicidal.* Sukla On Mon, Jul 17, 2023, 15:46 'XXX' wrote: > Point taken, Sukla - there is plenty of scope for vote-rigging with paper > ballots. But that doesn't mean there's no scope for it with EVMs. We heard > there was a surge in voting in Gujarat after the polls had closed, and an > RSS informant told Paranjoy Guha-Thakurtha that in certain voting centres, > the main polling officer was given a huge sum to distribute to underlings, > who were then instructed to press the button for the BJP every 7 seconds > for the next hour. That's an electronic form of ballot-box stuffing. Then > in Bihar, if you remember, a cop had reported to his superior that trucks > containing EVMs had been hijacked and substituted with other trucks, and > when he asked what to do, was advised to do nothing if he wanted to keep > his job. Another form of vote-riggning with EVMs. And perhaps VVPATs are > also involved, so counting them won't help. Only if all parties are allowed > to monitor the vote and subsequent movement of EVMs and actively do so can > these be eliminated. > > On Monday, 17 July 2023 at 03:08:21 BST, Sukla Sen <sukla....@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > In the Calcutta High Court. > Complaints of *tampering with the counting*, post-chhappa voting, at the > counting centres are being heard. > I. <https://fb.watch/lPMeerzinV/>. > II. <https://fb.watch/lQ0JAZwQrL/>. > III. <https://fb.watch/lQ10UkvYTX/>. > > Here's a video clip of ballot boxes in the strongroom(!) being taken to > the counting centre: <https://fb.watch/lQ1moyd7eN/>. > > Here's a video clip of chhappa voting underway: < > https://fb.watch/lQ1Gnpsllx/>. > > Sukla > > > On Sun, Jul 9, 2023, 23:50 Sukla Sen <sukla....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > *https://www.facebook.com/reel/1023463141924905 > <https://www.facebook.com/reel/1023463141924905>* > > *This would have not been possible with the EVM*. > I. You can't just go on continuously pressing the button. > Each push has to be separately enabled -- each time following a set > protocol. > II. The (helpless) polling officer, who's actually protesting, could have > very well remotely deactivated the machine had it been EVM. > III. Of course, the EVM is just no answer to violence. But, it *restricts* > (terror-enabled) > false voting in a very big way. > > On violence: > I. < > https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=978672863182855&id=100031204523777 > >. > II. < > https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=978673383182803&id=100031204523777 > >. > > [Btw, all these are all taken from the FB wall of a (self-proclaimed) > Congress activist from Murshidabad. > Regardless of the political affiliation, and all that it implies, there's > no ground to suspect that any of these videos is/are doctored. Hence, quite > valuable documents coming from a citizen journalist with a specific > political orientation.] > > Sukla > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Free Binayak Sen" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to free-binayaksen+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/free-binayaksen/CACEsOZianO5FN36UvePWACxabWTfX161C%3DoQWmN6F8vF7Lef7A%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/free-binayaksen/CACEsOZianO5FN36UvePWACxabWTfX161C%3DoQWmN6F8vF7Lef7A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to greenyouth+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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