Hi all
As Boris, I think the melody is not under copyright. I disagree when it
is told to remove the puncta mora and episemes. I think that only the
place of the ictusses remains under copyright in the editions of
Solesmes. Further, the place of the several ictusses fixed by the Monks
of Solesmes are not accepted by everybody. As far as I know, the Vatican
editions do not include ictusses.
So, I think there is no problem to make a GABC partition, as far as we
don't include the ictusses. Moreover, we rewrite the partitions from
scratch. I wonder if this can be considered as "copying". The most
elements of the Graduale Romanum of 1974 are also present in editions
that are no longer under copyright.
In my humble opinion...
Fr. Pierre François
On 02/19/2013 02:52 PM, Pierre Couderc wrote:
Mmm, Boris,
I am not sure you are in the good way. I think that you cannot remove
all puncta mora and hope to get a correct score.
The copyright is on a book itself according to usual laws (one for
each country), copyright in US, "droits d'auteur" in France.
In this case the copyright is from SA La Froidfontaine (which is under
dependency of Solesmes Abbey).
More over, an "omnia jura vindicabuntur" clause is added by
Desclée, but I do not think it changes something.
According to usual laws, I think that you may not reproduce a book,
elements of a book, of any work "derived" from the book, without
author agreement.
This implies a few things :
- you may reproduce with the agreement of the author. I do not know
their policy about that.
- you may reproduce works from older editions that are in public domain.
- you may even freely reproduce Saint-Gall neumes
<http://www.e-codices.unifr.ch/en/info/terms> for non-commercial
purposes...
- you may too make a personal work based on old edition of graduale
and your interpretation of Saint-Gall neumes...
I think that a gabc data base of 1974 graduale is vital, and that the
first thing to do is to ask the position of SA La Froidfontaine about it.
But I suppose that it has soon been done...?
In Christo
Pierre
Le 19/02/2013 12:41, Boris Maire a écrit :
Hi all,
about 1974 graduale, the copyright is on "rhythmics signis", not on
melody.
So, keep off all episema and points and you can publish the pdf
scores, as in the vatican version.
UdP,
Boris
Le 19 févr. 2013 à 12:30, Laércio Benedito Sivali de Sousa
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :
Great job, Olivier!
Just two questions:
1. The 1974 edition of Graduale Romanum is copyrighted, isn't it? I
think there will be no problem in publishing the GABC source files,
but publishing the typeset PDF files without Solesmes' permission
may be a copyright violation.
2. Will you include also scores from Graduale Simplex? This is also
copyrighted, so the same concerns in question 1 apply here, too.
Keep the good work!
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2013/2/19 Olivier Berten <[email protected]
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Hi!
Here comes a first preview of a database of gregorian tunes. It's
meant to be merged with The Caecilia Project (since it's where
most of
the content comes from) but the developement is still in a very
early
stage. I would call it pre-alpha as it's still far from being
feature
complete and there are still a lot of open questions.
But since the developement is going pretty slowly and the current
state of the project might already be useful for some people, I
decided to not wait any more for making it half-public.
Don't publicize it too much as the address is meant to change
but I'd
would love comments and suggestions about its useability. Please
have
a look at the Todo page. And if you want to help, be my guest ;-)
http://test.selapa.net/gregobase/
Yours,
Olivier
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