Hi Adam,

On 2014-05-12 15:44, Hardy, Adam wrote:
Bogdan, I had found that a little while ago but was unable to find again so 
thankyou for pointing me to it again and writing it in the first place.

Jon, I hadn't found those file previously and they are consistent with what I 
have come up with independently so I guess that is a good sign. Out of interest 
do you use GLYCAM with GROMACS? It's something I have wanted to try but 
couldn't see a way to implement the different LJ scaling factors into GROMACS 
that seem to be required for systems with both carbohydrate and 
non-carbohydrate molecules.
There are some tricks you can try to get the mixed 1-4 scaling factors in gromacs. One is to explicitly add the 1-4 interactions as pairs in the topology and turn off automatic pairs, another is to try a slightly modified version of the "half epsilon, double pairlist"-method:

https://mailman-1.sys.kth.se/pipermail/gromacs.org_gmx-users/2011-December/066697.html

I've tried it together with SLipids, and it works fine.

If you're not interested in the rotameric states of omega in your carbohydrates, you might as well scale the 1-4 interactions the same as Amber as stated in the Glycam documentation.

Regards
Jon

Adam Hardy
PhD Student
School of Engineering and Physical Sciences
Heriot-Watt University
Edinburgh EH14 4AS, UK

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Hi,

There have been some efforts of trying to implement the 56Acarbo before,
and there are some files that you might want to take a look at in the
user contributions section on the Gromacs website. I think the files
there only delas with 1-4 glycosidic linkages, but I guess it should be
straightforward to extend it to other connections using the dihedral
types from the 56Acarbo paper. Anyway the files might come in handy for
you if you haven't dicovered them yet. I can't say anything about the
quality of the conversion though, since I haven't used those parameters
myself, but it seems they use the same approach as you do (and as I did
a couple of years ago trying to accomplish the same thing, but I swiched
to Glycam parameters before I finished the project). I guess the best
thing would be to try to get hold of single point energies from gromos
and compare them with your conversion.

http://www.gromacs.org/Downloads/User_contributions/Force_fields

Regards
Jon Kapla


On 2014-05-12 12:49, Hardy, Adam wrote:
Dear All,

I am attempting to make modifications to the Gromos 53A6 forcefield in order to 
implement the Gromos 56Acarbo forcefield in GROMACS. Most of the modifications 
are straightforward except for some of the LJ parameters. As well as simple 
adjustments to most of the 1-4 interaction parameters there is a requirement to 
implement a) some 1-4 interaction parameters when the 2 and 3 atoms are 
specific combinations and b) some 1-5 special parameters.

As I'm fairly new to GROMACS I was hoping someone could verify my method and 
clarify one or two things.

I would need to set nrexcl to 4 in order to stop the special 1-5 parameters being calculated twice 
(once "normal" LJ, one "special").

In the itp file I would then need to explicitly provide all the special 1-4 and 
all the 1-5 LJ parameters (in addition to listing the normal 1-4 interaction 
pairs) as GROMACS cannot look these up in the forcefield files.

If gen-pairs is set to yes, does it overwrite parameters given in the itp file? This way 
I would not have to go through and explicitly list the "normal" 1-4 interaction 
parameters in the itp file.

I hope that is clear.

Many thanks in advance,

Adam Hardy
PhD Student
School of Engineering and Physical Sciences
Heriot-Watt University
Edinburgh EH14 4AS, UK


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