Hi Carsten,

Thank you so much for the invaluable advice, I'll go for the GTX 980 then.

JJ

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> On 25 Apr 2015, at 03:39, Jingjie Yeo (IHPC) <ye...@ihpc.a-star.edu.sg> wrote:
> 
> Hi Carsten,
> 
> Thank you so much for the information! Seems like the GTX is the way to go. 
> One last question, regarding the Maxwell architecture, would there be any 
> kind of backward compatibility issue, say if I need to use both Gromacs 4.6 
> and 5.0, since it is the newest architecture?
No problem there. Both 4.6 and 5.0 work fine with GTX 980.

Carsten

> 
> JJ
> 
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> Of Kutzner, Carsten
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> Gromacs 5
> 
> Hi JJ,
> 
>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 10:53, Jingjie Yeo (IHPC) <ye...@ihpc.a-star.edu.sg> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Carsten,
>> 
>> Thank you so much for the information! I checked with my vendor on his 
>> opinions on the GTX and his reply was that GTX cards will not minimize 
>> calculation errors the way Tesla and Quadro cards will. Do you think this is 
>> an issue?
> The GeForce cards do not offer ECC memory, so they cannot pick up 
> memory errors occurring on the GPU, which are however very unlikely. 
> Run an extensive memory check (e.g. memtestCL) before first usage of 
> the cards. We have tested nearly
> 300 GeForce cards, and only 7 of them had problems with memory, so we 
> replaced them.
> 
> Carsten
> 
> 
>> 
>> JJ
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gromacs.org_gmx-users-boun...@maillist.sys.kth.se
>> [mailto:gromacs.org_gmx-users-boun...@maillist.sys.kth.se] On Behalf 
>> Of Kutzner, Carsten
>> Sent: Friday, 24 April, 2015 16:40
>> To: gmx-us...@gromacs.org
>> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Optimal GPU setup for workstation with 
>> Gromacs 5
>> 
>> Hi JJ,
>> 
>>> On 24 Apr 2015, at 03:02, Jingjie Yeo (IHPC) <ye...@ihpc.a-star.edu.sg> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Carsten,
>>> 
>>> In this case of 2 x GTX980, as far as I can tell, the clock speed 
>>> and GPU ram is significantly lower. For simulations of more
>> The GTX 980s have a clock rate of about 1200 MHz, whereas the clock rate of 
>> the Tesla K40 is 732 MHz. The latter has more CUDA cores, however.
>> A rough estimate on how well the GROMACS short-ranged kernels perform on a 
>> card is the product of clock rate and CUDA cores. In this metric, the GTX 
>> 980 is slightly better than the K40. In addition, the GTX 980 also has the 
>> newer Maxwell generation chip, yielding somewhat higher performance due to 
>> better instruction scheduling.
>> 
>> The amount of GPU memory is almost never an issue with GROMACS unless you 
>> want to run enormously large MD systems. The largest system that we 
>> benchmarked had 12 million atoms and this was using 1.2 GB of GPU memory, so 
>> you could even run a couple of these on a 980.
>> 
>> In our tests with a 2 million atom system on a node with 2x E5-2680v2 
>> processors, using two 980s resulted in a 14% increased GROMACS performance 
>> when compared to using two K40s.
>> 
>> Note that from the money you save by buying GTX instead of Tesla 
>> cards you can get another node to run another simulation on :)
>> 
>> Carsten
>> 
>> 
>>> than a million atoms, would it be advisable to go for more cores or more 
>>> clock speed, or having both is the best case scenario?
>>> 
>>> JJ
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 08:03:46 +0000
>>> From: "Kutzner, Carsten" <ckut...@gwdg.de>
>>> To: "gmx-us...@gromacs.org" <gmx-us...@gromacs.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Optimal GPU setup for workstation with
>>>     Gromacs 5
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>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>>> On 23 Apr 2015, at 08:03, Jingjie Yeo (IHPC) <ye...@ihpc.a-star.edu.sg> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> 
>>>> My workstation specs are 2 x Intel Xeon E5-2695v2 2.40 GHz, 12 Cores. I 
>>>> would like to combine this with an optimal GPU setup for Gromacs 5 running 
>>>> simulations with millions of atoms. May I know what are the recommended 
>>>> setups? My vendor proposed doing a dual K40 Tesla GPU setup, would that be 
>>>> optimal?
>>> I would propose to put two GTX 980 into that machine instead.
>>> This will give you the same GROMACS performance at a fraction of the price.
>>> 
>>> Carsten
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> JJ
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