On 9/9/18 3:12 PM, Bratin Kumar Das wrote:
Respected Dr. Justin,
                                   When I run the gmx energy command I found
potential energy in positive
Energy                      Average   Err.Est.       RMSD  Tot-Drift
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Potential                4.67273e+08    4.7e+08 1.83206e+10 -2.80745e+09
(kJ/mol)
In first mail I wrote wrong. So my average potential energy is coming
4.62e+08, I think it is not acceptable for subsequent equilbration.
and when the minimization started some of the atom has high potential energy

Step=    0, Dmax= 1.0e-02 nm, Epot=  7.31298e+11 Fmax= 2.45648e+14, atom=
4054
Step=    1, Dmax= 1.0e-02 nm, Epot=  1.50885e+10 Fmax= 1.54878e+12, atom=
2379
Step=    2, Dmax= 1.2e-02 nm, Epot=  1.64698e+09 Fmax= 8.54330e+10, atom=
2383
Step=    3, Dmax= 1.4e-02 nm, Epot=  3.28739e+08 Fmax= 1.05704e+10, atom=
4048
Step=    4, Dmax= 1.7e-02 nm, Epot=  8.36090e+07 Fmax= 1.51995e+09, atom=
4050
Step=    5, Dmax= 2.1e-02 nm, Epot=  1.71898e+07 Fmax= 2.07116e+08, atom=
2389
Step=    6, Dmax= 2.5e-02 nm, Epot=  2.12858e+06 Fmax= 3.24305e+07, atom=
2429
Step=    7, Dmax= 3.0e-02 nm, Epot= -5.70125e+05 Fmax= 3.58609e+06, atom=
4049
Step=    8, Dmax= 3.6e-02 nm, Epot= -1.28016e+06 Fmax= 1.65686e+06, atom=
4049
Step=    9, Dmax= 4.3e-02 nm, Epot= -1.42968e+06 Fmax= 1.01298e+06, atom=
5961
Step=   10, Dmax= 5.2e-02 nm, Epot= -1.49528e+06 Fmax= 6.36454e+06, atom=
5961
upto 6th step the potential energy was positive.

That's what energy minimization does - it relaxes a system from a point high on the potential energy surface to one that is low on the potential energy surface. The average energy during EM is meaningless.

-Justin

On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 12:32 AM, Justin Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu> wrote:


On 9/9/18 3:01 PM, Bratin Kumar Das wrote:

Respected Dr justin,
                                  During minimisation I restrained all the
heavy atom to 1000 and .mdp file I defined  =-DPOSRES. But during
minimization at 36th sept the following lines are coming
step 36: One or more water molecules can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep if appropriate.

Back Off! I just backed up step36b.pdb to ./#step36b.pdb.1#

Back Off! I just backed up step36c.pdb to ./#step36c.pdb.1#
Can it creat any problem during equilibration?

Unlikely. As long as minimization completes normally (which it did), you
can safely disregard the mild bad contact. If minimization aborts after
such messages and/or huge forces remain, you will have a problem.

-Justin


On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 12:24 AM, Justin Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu> wrote:

On 9/9/18 2:53 PM, Bratin Kumar Das wrote:

Dear all,
               During minimization of a protein molecule I found
following
error
Steepest Descents:
      Tolerance (Fmax)   =  1.00000e+03
      Number of steps    =        50000
Step=    0, Dmax= 1.0e-02 nm, Epot=  7.31298e+11 Fmax= 2.45648e+14,
atom=
4054
Step=    1, Dmax= 1.0e-02 nm, Epot=  1.50885e+10 Fmax= 1.54878e+12,
atom=
2379
Step=    2, Dmax= 1.2e-02 nm, Epot=  1.64698e+09 Fmax= 8.54330e+10,
atom=
2383
Step=    3, Dmax= 1.4e-02 nm, Epot=  3.28739e+08 Fmax= 1.05704e+10,
atom=
4048
Step=    4, Dmax= 1.7e-02 nm, Epot=  8.36090e+07 Fmax= 1.51995e+09,
atom=
4050
Step=    5, Dmax= 2.1e-02 nm, Epot=  1.71898e+07 Fmax= 2.07116e+08,
atom=
2389
Step=    6, Dmax= 2.5e-02 nm, Epot=  2.12858e+06 Fmax= 3.24305e+07,
atom=
2429
Step=    7, Dmax= 3.0e-02 nm, Epot= -5.70125e+05 Fmax= 3.58609e+06,
atom=
4049
Step=    8, Dmax= 3.6e-02 nm, Epot= -1.28016e+06 Fmax= 1.65686e+06,
atom=
4049
Step=    9, Dmax= 4.3e-02 nm, Epot= -1.42968e+06 Fmax= 1.01298e+06,
atom=
5961
Step=   10, Dmax= 5.2e-02 nm, Epot= -1.49528e+06 Fmax= 6.36454e+06,
atom=
5961
Step=   11, Dmax= 6.2e-02 nm, Epot= -1.54938e+06 Fmax= 6.68748e+05,
atom=
5961
Step=   12, Dmax= 7.4e-02 nm, Epot= -1.65446e+06 Fmax= 1.20563e+06,
atom=
5961
Step=   13, Dmax= 8.9e-02 nm, Epot= -1.69075e+06 Fmax= 7.88571e+05,
atom=
5961
Step=   14, Dmax= 1.1e-01 nm, Epot= -1.75037e+06 Fmax= 3.41886e+05,
atom=
5959
Step=   15, Dmax= 1.3e-01 nm, Epot= -1.82276e+06 Fmax= 2.53773e+06,
atom=
6040
Step=   16, Dmax= 1.5e-01 nm, Epot= -1.84616e+06 Fmax= 7.83228e+04,
atom=
6038
Step=   17, Dmax= 1.8e-01 nm, Epot= -1.92394e+06 Fmax= 5.93584e+06,
atom=
5959
Step=   18, Dmax= 2.2e-01 nm, Epot= -1.95719e+06 Fmax= 1.40285e+06,
atom=
5959
Step=   22, Dmax= 3.3e-02 nm, Epot= -1.97156e+06 Fmax= 3.57269e+05,
atom=
6035
Step=   23, Dmax= 4.0e-02 nm, Epot= -1.98878e+06 Fmax= 1.96496e+05,
atom=
6038
Step=   24, Dmax= 4.8e-02 nm, Epot= -2.00989e+06 Fmax= 1.38405e+05,
atom=
6038
Step=   25, Dmax= 5.8e-02 nm, Epot= -2.03060e+06 Fmax= 7.56408e+04,
atom=
6038
Step=   26, Dmax= 6.9e-02 nm, Epot= -2.05304e+06 Fmax= 1.84679e+05,
atom=
6035
Step=   27, Dmax= 8.3e-02 nm, Epot= -2.06081e+06 Fmax= 1.93408e+05,
atom=
6035
Step=   28, Dmax= 9.9e-02 nm, Epot= -2.06913e+06 Fmax= 7.41533e+04,
atom=
6035
Step=   29, Dmax= 1.2e-01 nm, Epot= -2.09293e+06 Fmax= 2.36608e+05,
atom=
6035
Step=   30, Dmax= 1.4e-01 nm, Epot= -2.09915e+06 Fmax= 7.16045e+04,
atom=
5956
Step=   32, Dmax= 8.6e-02 nm, Epot= -2.12024e+06 Fmax= 1.92532e+04,
atom=
6034
Step=   33, Dmax= 1.0e-01 nm, Epot= -2.16233e+06 Fmax= 2.15331e+05,
atom=
6034
Step=   34, Dmax= 1.2e-01 nm, Epot= -2.16784e+06 Fmax= 2.29221e+05,
atom=
6034
Step=   35, Dmax= 1.5e-01 nm, Epot= -2.17775e+06 Fmax= 3.69837e+04,
atom=
5954

step 36: One or more water molecules can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep if appropriate.
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Step=   37, Dmax= 8.9e-02 nm, Epot= -2.19131e+06 Fmax= 6.98159e+04,
atom=
5930
Step=   38, Dmax= 1.1e-01 nm, Epot= -2.20081e+06 Fmax= 6.51073e+04,
atom=
5930
Step=   39, Dmax= 1.3e-01 nm, Epot= -2.20771e+06 Fmax= 5.28709e+04,
atom=
5930
Step=   41, Dmax= 7.7e-02 nm, Epot= -2.21916e+06 Fmax= 4.40351e+04,
atom=
6034
Step=   42, Dmax= 9.2e-02 nm, Epot= -2.22219e+06 Fmax= 8.88734e+04,
atom=
6034
Step=   43, Dmax= 1.1e-01 nm, Epot= -2.23435e+06 Fmax= 4.54206e+04,
atom=
6038
Step=   45, Dmax= 6.6e-02 nm, Epot= -2.24405e+06 Fmax= 2.58491e+04,
atom=
6038
    Here you can see "step 36" why this warning is coming. To overcome
that
what can be done ...please comment
after 2000 steps energy minimisation stopped..
Step= 1990, Dmax= 1.2e-02 nm, Epot= -2.65978e+06 Fmax= 1.04066e+04,
atom=
7047
Step= 1991, Dmax= 1.5e-02 nm, Epot= -2.65979e+06 Fmax= 1.20911e+04,
atom=
7047
Step= 1993, Dmax= 8.7e-03 nm, Epot= -2.65989e+06 Fmax= 1.40821e+03,
atom=
7047
Step= 1994, Dmax= 1.0e-02 nm, Epot= -2.65990e+06 Fmax= 1.47325e+04,
atom=
7047
Step= 1995, Dmax= 1.3e-02 nm, Epot= -2.66002e+06 Fmax= 4.74074e+03,
atom=
7047
Step= 1997, Dmax= 7.5e-03 nm, Epot= -2.66004e+06 Fmax= 6.93813e+03,
atom=
7047
Step= 1998, Dmax= 9.1e-03 nm, Epot= -2.66006e+06 Fmax= 7.07361e+03,
atom=
7047
Step= 2000, Dmax= 5.4e-03 nm, Epot= -2.66010e+06 Fmax= 1.33089e+03,
atom=
7047
Step= 2001, Dmax= 6.5e-03 nm, Epot= -2.66013e+06 Fmax= 8.79306e+03,
atom=
7047
Step= 2002, Dmax= 7.8e-03 nm, Epot= -2.66019e+06 Fmax= 3.31993e+03,
atom=
7047
Step= 2004, Dmax= 4.7e-03 nm, Epot= -2.66021e+06 Fmax= 3.95092e+03,
atom=
7047
Step= 2005, Dmax= 5.6e-03 nm, Epot= -2.66022e+06 Fmax= 4.76073e+03,
atom=
7047
Step= 2006, Dmax= 6.8e-03 nm, Epot= -2.66024e+06 Fmax= 5.70411e+03,
atom=
7047
Step= 2007, Dmax= 8.1e-03 nm, Epot= -2.66025e+06 Fmax= 6.84219e+03,
atom=
7047
Step= 2008, Dmax= 9.7e-03 nm, Epot= -2.66027e+06 Fmax= 8.21675e+03,
atom=
7047
Step= 2009, Dmax= 1.2e-02 nm, Epot= -2.66027e+06 Fmax= 9.84435e+03,
atom=
7047
Step= 2011, Dmax= 7.0e-03 nm, Epot= -2.66035e+06 Fmax= 9.95714e+02,
atom=
7047

writing lowest energy coordinates.

Steepest Descents converged to Fmax < 1000 in 2012 steps
Potential Energy  = -2.6603498e+06
Maximum force     =  9.9571436e+02 on atom 7047
Norm of force     =  1.0860784e+01

GROMACS reminds you: "Only entropy comes easy." (Anton Chekov)
Is it a  indication of proper minimization ?

when I evaluated the energy of the system I found that the potential
energy
of the system is
Steepest Descents converged to Fmax < 1000 in 2012 steps
Potential Energy  = -2.6603498e+06
Maximum force     =  9.9571436e+02 on atom 7047
Norm of force     =  1.0860784e+01

There is no error here. This is entirely normal output.
-Justin

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