On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Geoff Huston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 20/11/2008, at 6:51 AM, Stephen Stuart wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Geoff Huston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 20/11/2008, at 5:16 AM, Stephen Stuart wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This should probably not be a common case, but we do see it from time
>>>>> to
>>>>> time. It would be useful for us to be able to have this data.
>>>>
>>>> Data regarding the state of configured peers are already available by
>>>> other means (the BGP 4 MIB described in RFC1657); correlating with
>>>> that data tells us that a peer has supplied no updates
>>>> (BGP4-MIB::bgpPeerInUpdates.A.B.C.D). If the update count is non-zero
>>>> and there are still no BMP messages indicating that the peer supplied
>>>> a prefix, then it's likely attributable to "state changes in the
>>>> interim" for that prefix.
>>>
>>> having access to a feed of BGP data for research purposes and SNMP access
>>> to
>>> the bgp speaker's MIB are invariably two entirely different concepts,
>>
>> On the other hand, an application built to use a feed of BGP data for
>> decision support almost certainly has other sources of operational
>> data, such as BGP MIB data, readily available. At least that's the
>> case for me.
>
> true, but my comment is motivated by the text in the draft's abstract which
> states:
>
> "BMP is intended to provide a more convenient interface for obtaining route
> views for research purpose than the screen-scraping approach in common use
> today".
> And if the intent is to serve the BPG feed leeches (such as myself!) then
> SNMP access is not a given.

Agreed.

Do SR messages suffice? Would you prefer to see some of the
information from the bgpPeerTable replicated in SR messages?
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