Could the authors provide further clarification on the following.

Is the intent to tie path availability and this functionality? I could
see other uses for path availability ie Load Balancing, Fast
Convergence, Minimize Path Hiding..

Availability of Paths. Is the draft proposing a mechanism for a speaker
to discover alternative paths ? There are a number of existing drafts
BGP Best External and Add-Paths for IPV4 and BGP Best External and a
Unique RD ( Not a draft ) per VRF Context ensure that we get the second
best paths to a ASBR Speaker ( Either PE or ASBR ). The draft does not
speak to the approach..

Make before Break. Is this a capabilities negotiation on a per session
basis? I would guess so.. 

Will the set of affected prefixes need to be sent in a BGP Withdrawal
message to the RRs from the initiator? If so what is the behavior? It
seems that all speakers would then select ASBR2 ( Your Example ).. So
there would be no change from the RR towards the iBGP topology?

Jim Uttaro 


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        Title           : Requirements for the graceful shutdown of BGP
sessions
        Author(s)       : T. Takeda, B. Decraene, P. Francois, c.
pelsser, Z. Ahmad, A. Armengol
        Filename        :
draft-ietf-grow-bgp-graceful-shutdown-requirements-02.txt
        Pages           : 16
        Date            : 2010-4-30
        
The BGP protocol is heavily used in Service Provider networks both 
   for Internet and BGP/MPLS VPN services. For resiliency purposes, 
   redundant routers and BGP sessions can be deployed to reduce the 
   consequences of an AS Border Router or BGP session breakdown on 
   customers' or peers' traffic. However simply taking down or even 
   bringing up a BGP session for maintenance purposes may still induce 
   connectivity losses during the BGP convergence. This is no more 
   satisfactory for new applications (e.g. voice over IP, on line 
   gaming, VPN). Therefore, a solution is required for the graceful 
   shutdown of a (set of) BGP session(s) in order to limit the amount of
traffic loss during a planned shutdown. This document expresses 
   requirements for such a solution.

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