OK, then let's state that operational messages (DUMP with malformed
packet) shall be used to notify the neighbor. The ideal scenario for
me is:

1.- Someone sends me a stinking packet and resets my router: I'm able
to notify him back automatically and then, if he doesn't react I can
a) shut the session down and b) ask him why he didn't react.

2.- I'm sending stinking packets: I receive a trap after I sent the
first and I can shut the router/session down and rollback any changes
or investigate where that stinking packet came from, and why it was
rejected.

I think we have still not learnt from the 2009 incidents, where it
took more than 6 hours to bring the situation back to normal and
that's a pity.

/PA

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:48 AM, Jakob Heitz <[email protected]> wrote:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-idr-operational-message-00
>
> On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 10:24 PM, Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <> wrote:
>
>> I completely agree with the need to send as much root-cause info as
>> possible. I think that the user (i.e. admin of the router receiving
>> wrecked BGP-4 updates) has to be informed. But I also think it would
>> not do any harm to inform the neighbour causing the crash (à la "you
>> killed me with this packet!!!"). This information has to be used to
>> inform (via trap, log, etc.) the admin of the router causing the
>> damage, so that he takes action ASAP.
>>
>> My .2 cents,
>> /Pedro A. Aranda
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 5:05 PM, George, Wes
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I've read this draft and I think it is useful and ready to proceed.
>>> Two minor comments:
>>>
>>> In section 4, it may be useful to specifically note the need for a
>>> flag, trap, or other notification method (to the user, rather than
>>> to the neighbor) to identify when BGP is in the process of
>>> recovering RIB consistency, including which routes are considered
>>> inconsistent (if this info is available). While section 6 discusses
>>> the need for more information about the state of BGP when it is
>>> recovering from these errors, I saw no reference to this specific
>>> item. Since this is likely to be a transient state, it is also
>>> helpful to log this information to aid in root cause analysis of
>>> transient problems.
> --
> Jakob Heitz.
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