----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Raszuk" <[email protected]>
To: "Smith, Donald" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 10:29 PM
> Hi Donald,
>
> I do not think this proposal changes BGP state machine. It does not
> affect connection state as such. It just de-preferes routes during
> normal best path selection runs.
>
> If it changes in any way it just delays the actual shutdown of the
> connection which one may consider the operator's choice. Note that
> what the draft is trying to automate and make easier operationally is
> possible to do manually today with existing BGP state machine therefor
> this seems like an argument that no changes to BGP state machine is
> required.

I am with Robert on this one.  The structure of the FSM, in terms of
states and events and state changes, is unaltered by this.

Arguably, this I-D changes the list of actions to be taken when Event 2
or Event 8 occurs in Established state but I think that such
enhancements have been with us for a while and that there is no reason
for them to be called out by this I-D in particular.

Tom Petch

> Rgs,
> R.
>
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Smith, Donald
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Where are the "Changes to BGP Finite State Machine" listed?
> > BGP is supposed to be a Finite State Machine. Most early BGP rfcs
called out the changes specifically.
> > At least up to rfc4724 (Graceful Restart).
> >
> > This one CLEARLY changes the finite state machine but doesn't
clearly state what those changes are.
> > Many others have done the same thing it is nearly impossible to map
out how all those new rfcs have affected the state machine.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Pampers use multiple layers of protection to prevent leakage.
Rommel used defense in depth to defend European fortresses." (A.White)
[email protected]
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of
> >>[email protected]
> >>Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 3:17 AM
> >>To: [email protected]
> >>Cc: [email protected]
> >>Subject: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-bgp-gshut-04.txt
> >>
> >>
> >>A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> >>directories.
> >> This draft is a work item of the Global Routing Operations Working
> >>Group of the IETF.
> >>
> >>       Title           : Graceful BGP session shutdown
> >>       Author(s)       : Pierre Francois
> >>                          Bruno Decraene
> >>                          Cristel Pelsser
> >>                          Keyur Patel
> >>                          Clarence Filsfils
> >>       Filename        : draft-ietf-grow-bgp-gshut-04.txt
> >>       Pages           : 12
> >>       Date            : 2012-10-22
> >>
> >>Abstract:
> >>   This draft describes operational procedures aimed at reducing the
> >>   amount of traffic lost during planned maintenances of routers or
> >>   links, involving the shutdown of BGP peering sessions.
> >>
> >>
> >>The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> >>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-grow-bgp-gshut
> >>
> >>There's also a htmlized version available at:
> >>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-grow-bgp-gshut-04
> >>
> >>A diff from the previous version is available at:
> >>http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-grow-bgp-gshut-04
> >>
> >>
> >>Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> >>ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
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