On Jan 3, 2013, at 6:34 PM, Brian Dickson <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Smith, Donald <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> >Tony Li
> >Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:31 PM
> >To: Jeff Wheeler
> >Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
> >Subject: Re: [GROW] [Idr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-ops-reqs-for-bgp-
> >error-handling-06.txt
> >
> 
> >I support the general concept of improved error handling and softer
> >failures when possible.
> >
> It exasperated it by causing peers to drop and having to rebuild ribs/fibs 
> etc... continuously.
> 
> Other than getting it noticed I doubt a reset will ever make a misbehaving 
> router stop misbehaving.
> 
> The "continuously" points to the problem. If a session drops because of 
> syntactic issues, it should stay down.
> Does that make sense? It is analogous to "treat-as-withdraw", just using a 
> much larger hammer. :-)
> 

I think that Mike Long had it right earlier today in saying that the vendor 
implementation should shut the session just like max-prefix. (perhaps with a 
default restart-timer measured in tens of minutes)?  This doesn't seem to need 
a protocol change though.  I am also a bit wary of as Tony put it .. "nerd 
knobs".  I've seen how some of these legacy knobs break in some new/future 
release as they migrate through our templates/platforms over the years.  Nobody 
even knows what it does anymore, and the original purpose is gone but the 
parser still takes it ...

- Jared
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