On Dec 4, 2015, at 9:48 PM, Randy Bush <[email protected]> wrote:

>>   Where the security considerations outlined above are a concern, users
>>   of this protocol should use IPsec [RFC4303] in tunnel mode with
>>   preshared keys.
> 
> the classic wiggle from the 1990s.  and no one ever does it.  and at the
> using layer, you can not even detect if it is in place and abort if it
> is not.  #fail

I do not understand your point. Wasn't actually intended as a wiggle, but as an 
option that you can actually do with existing shipping code. Maybe we can 
discuss Monday. 

--J
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